Surface Area obtained by rotating a curve?

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The discussion revolves around finding the surface area obtained by rotating the curve defined by the equation x = 3e^(2y) from y=0 to y=1 about the y-axis. Participants are exploring the application of integral calculus, specifically focusing on the use of u-substitution and integration techniques.

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  • Participants discuss various approaches to solving the integral, including u-substitution and integration by parts. There are questions regarding the correctness of limits and whether the results obtained are valid, particularly in relation to negative values encountered.

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Several participants have provided insights and alternative methods for approaching the integral. There is an ongoing exploration of different substitution techniques and integration strategies, with some participants expressing frustration over the complexity of the problem. No explicit consensus has been reached on the final solution.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of their substitutions and the limits of integration, with some noting potential errors in their calculations. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the steps involved in the integration process.

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1. Let the area of the surface obtained by rotating the curve x = 3e^(2y) from y=0 to y=1 about the y-axis
2. [tex] S= \int_{y_1} ^{y_2} 2 \pi x ds \ where \ ds=\sqrt{1+ \left( \frac{dx}{dy} \right) ^2} dy[/tex]
3. [tex] S=2\pi \int _{0} ^{1} x\sqrt{1+\left(\frac{dx}{dy}\right)^2} dy[/tex]
Let
[itex] u=6e^{2y} \Rightarrow \frac{du}{dy}=12e^2y \Rightarrow \frac{du}{4}=3e^{2y}dy[/itex]
[tex] S=2\pi \int \frac{1}{4} \sqrt{1+u^2} du[/tex]
I then got 2(pi) integral sec(theta)^3 d(theta) by substituting "u" for tan(theta)

I have been working on this problem for a while, and I am getting frustrated. What is the final result?
 
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All it takes is a u-substitution. Let u=6e^(2y)+1. Then du=12e^(2y) dy, and there's a nice factor of e^(2y) outside of your square root.
 
Hi,

this is correct, good work:

[tex] <br /> S=2\pi \int \frac{1}{4} \sqrt{1+u^2} du<br /> [/tex]

now u got basically an integral of I = sec(x)^3.
it's a tricky integral solving it is the art of integration :)
use integration by parts: u = sec(x); dv = sec(x)^2 dx
u get: I = uv - int( tan^2(x) sec(x) )

identity: tan^2(x) = sec^2(x) - 1
then you get the same integral on both sides of the equation but with opposite signs !

I = uv - int( sec^3(x) - sec(x) ) = uv - I + int( sec(x) )
I = 0.5* [ uv + int( sec(x) ) ]

here you go ! :)
 
Thank you guys for all your help.

Char. Limit made a great point, one that I overlooked. Here is what I did:

u == 6*E^(2y) + 1
du == 12*E^(2y)

integral_0^1 6e^(2y) pi sqrt(u) du
integral (pi sqrt(u))/2 du

After taking the integral I got: pi/(4 sqrt(u)).
I then plugged in for u getting: pi/(4 sqrt(6 e^(2 y)+1)) which I evaluated from 0 to 1, but I did not get the right answer! Not only that but the answer I got was negative.

Do I need to change the limits?
 
Flexer5 said:
Thank you guys for all your help.

Char. Limit made a great point, one that I overlooked. Here is what I did:

u == 6*E^(2y) + 1
du == 12*E^(2y)

integral_0^1 6e^(2y) pi sqrt(u) du
integral (pi sqrt(u))/2 du

After taking the integral I got: pi/(4 sqrt(u)).
I then plugged in for u getting: pi/(4 sqrt(6 e^(2 y)+1)) which I evaluated from 0 to 1, but I did not get the right answer! Not only that but the answer I got was negative.

Do I need to change the limits?

Woops! Instead of integrating, you accidentally differentiated. The integral of sqrt(u) is (2/3)u^(3/2).
 
I admit Char. Limit found a nice way to solve that integral, much better then messing with sec(x) :)
 

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