Surface waves vs longitudinal waves

In summary, the conversation discusses the propagation of waves in fluids, specifically in ocean water. It is pointed out that while only longitudinal waves propagate in fluids, both transverse and longitudinal waves propagate in ocean water. This leads to confusion about whether ocean water can be considered a fluid or not. The existence of longitudinal waves in the ocean is mentioned as evidence for the liquid nature of Earth's core. The explanation is further supported by the role of shear forces in the propagation of waves in fluids. Additional resources are suggested for a better understanding of the topic.
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in fluid only longitudinal waves propagate but in Ocean water both transverse and longitudinal waves propagate. Does that mean Ocean water is not a fluid? I am confused. Can anyone explain please.(Longitudinal wave is the evidence for Earth core is liquid)
 
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It is my understanding that transverse waves on the ocean are a surface phenomenon, occurring near the boundary of the fluid. They involve rotational trajectories of the fluid molecules with gravity/pressure providing the restoring force. They don't propagate through the bulk of the fluid because shear forces are non existent (or too small to matter).

Some nice animations of the various types of waves can be found here.
 
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Thank you so much for your attempt. I am sorry, I am not convinced though...
 

1. What are surface waves and longitudinal waves?

Surface waves and longitudinal waves are two types of mechanical waves that can travel through a medium, such as water or air. Surface waves travel along the surface of a medium, while longitudinal waves travel through the medium in a back-and-forth motion.

2. What is the main difference between surface waves and longitudinal waves?

The main difference between surface waves and longitudinal waves is the direction in which they travel. Surface waves travel horizontally along the surface of a medium, while longitudinal waves travel in a vertical direction through the medium.

3. How do surface waves and longitudinal waves differ in terms of energy transfer?

Surface waves transfer energy through the particles of a medium in a circular motion, causing the particles to move in a circular path. Longitudinal waves, on the other hand, transfer energy through the compression and rarefaction of the medium, causing the particles to vibrate back and forth in the direction of the wave's motion.

4. What are some examples of surface waves and longitudinal waves?

An example of a surface wave is an ocean wave, which travels along the surface of the water. An example of a longitudinal wave is a sound wave, which travels through air or other mediums and causes particles to vibrate in the direction of the wave's motion.

5. How do surface waves and longitudinal waves affect the medium they travel through?

Surface waves can cause a disturbance on the surface of a medium, such as creating ripples on the surface of water. Longitudinal waves can cause compression and rarefaction of the medium, which can result in changes in pressure and density.

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