Switching coordinate system of a field

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The discussion revolves around transforming a vector field from cylindrical coordinates to Cartesian coordinates, specifically focusing on the components of the vector field and their relationships in different coordinate systems.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the transformation equations for vector components, questioning how to express the angular component A_Θ in Cartesian coordinates. There is also a discussion about the implications of setting x = 0 in the context of the angle Θ.

Discussion Status

Participants have provided some transformations and clarified the relationship between cylindrical and Cartesian components. Questions remain regarding the interpretation of certain cases, such as when x = 0, and how to handle time derivatives of the components.

Contextual Notes

There is an assumption that A_z remains unchanged between coordinate systems, and some participants note the omission of A_z in certain equations for brevity. The discussion also touches on the implications of specific values in the context of physics problems.

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Homework Statement


Say I have some sort of a vector field in the cylindrical coordinate system \vec{F}(r, \Theta, z) = f(\vec{A}(r,\Theta,z),\vec{B}(r,\Theta,z))

How do I switch to the Cartesian coordinates? More precisely, how do I transform A_r = g(A_x,A_y,A_z), A_\Theta = h(A_x,A_y,A_z) and so on?

Homework Equations



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Del_in_cylindrical_and_spherical_coordinates

The Attempt at a Solution



I understand that {\left(A_z\right)}_{cyl.} = {\left(A_z\right)}_{Cart.}
and similarly for B and that
A_x = A_r\cdot\cos(\Theta), A_y = A_r\cdot\sin(\Theta.

However, what do I do with A_\Theta?
 
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##\vec{A}=A_r~\hat{r}+A_{\theta}~\hat{\theta}##
##\hat{r}=\cos \theta~\hat{x}+\sin \theta~\hat{y}## and ##\hat{\theta}=-\sin \theta~\hat{x}+\cos \theta~\hat{y}##
Therefore,
##\vec{A}=A_r~(\cos \theta~\hat{x}+\sin \theta~\hat{y})+A_{\theta}~(-\sin \theta~\hat{x}+\cos \theta~\hat{y})##
From which
##A_x = A_r~\cos \theta - A_{\theta}~\sin \theta~;~~ A_y = A_r~\sin \theta+A_{\theta}\cos \theta##
Is this what you are looking for?
 
kuruman said:
##\vec{A}=A_r~\hat{r}+A_{\theta}~\hat{\theta}##
##\hat{r}=\cos \theta~\hat{x}+\sin \theta~\hat{y}## and ##\hat{\theta}=-\sin \theta~\hat{x}+\cos \theta~\hat{y}##
Therefore,
##\vec{A}=A_r~(\cos \theta~\hat{x}+\sin \theta~\hat{y})+A_{\theta}~(-\sin \theta~\hat{x}+\cos \theta~\hat{y})##
From which
##A_x = A_r~\cos \theta - A_{\theta}~\sin \theta~;~~ A_y = A_r~\sin \theta+A_{\theta}\cos \theta##
Is this what you are looking for?
I don't see A_z in your equations. Why is that? Also, one can express \Theta as = \arctan(\frac{y}{x}) correct? But what's the meaning of it when x = 0? If I am solving a physics problem then surely the set of points for which x = 0 aren't necessarily impossible.
 
You don't see Az because it is the same in Cartesian and cylindrical coordinates. I omitted it to save time, but you can assume it's there.
2sin54 said:
But what's the meaning of it when x = 0? If I am solving a physics problem then surely the set of points for which x = 0 aren't necessarily impossible.
What makes you think these points might be impossible? When x = 0, the vector points either along the +y axis in which case θ = π/2 or along the -y axis in which case θ = 3π/2.
 
Thank you for your answers. One more question. Assuming A_x = A_r\cdot\cos(\Theta), A_\Theta = 0 If I wish to find how Ax changes with time is the following approach correct?
\frac{dA_x}{dt} = \frac{dA_r}{dt}\cdot\cos(\Theta) - A_r\cdot\sin(\Theta)\cdot\frac{d\Theta}{dt}
 
That is correct. It says that when ##A_x## changes with time, it can happen either because ##A_r## changes or because the angle changes or both.
 

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