Find the coordinates of a point in 3-space

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The discussion revolves around finding the coordinates of a point B in 3-space, given a vector A and the distance between points A and B. The participants analyze the vector representation of B, utilizing unit vectors and magnitudes to establish relationships between the coordinates. They derive a quadratic equation to solve for the magnitude of vector B, ultimately identifying the correct value needed to determine the coordinates of point B. The conversation highlights the importance of careful algebraic manipulation and verification of each step in the calculations. The final goal is to accurately locate point B based on the established conditions.
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Steve4Physics said:
You have 2 points P(1,2) and Q(3k, 4k). You require the distance between them to be 10. So what equation can you now write down and solve?
##d^2=(x_Q-x_P)^2+(y_Q-y_P)^2##
##100=(3k-1)^2+(4k-2)^2##
##100=(3k-1)^2+(4k-2)^2##
##(a-b)^2=a^2-2ab+b^2##
##(3k-1)^2=(3k)^2-2(3k)(-1)+(-1)^2=9k^2+6k+1##
##(4k-2)^2=(4k)^2-2(4k)(-2)+(-2)^2=16k^2+16k+4##
##(3k-1)^2+(4k-2)^2=25k^2+22k+5##
@Steve4Physics, I can see that I am using the quadratic formula method. How do I employ the Law of Cosines here?
 
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CaliforniaRoll88 said:
##d^2=(x_Q-x_P)^2+(y_Q-y_P)^2##
##100=(3k-1)^2+(4k-2)^2##
##100=(3k-1)^2+(4k-2)^2##
You have repeated a line, but no matter.

CaliforniaRoll88 said:
##(a-b)^2=a^2-2ab+b^2##
##(3k-1)^2=(3k)^2-2(3k)(-1)+(-1)^2=9k^2+6k+1##
No. You have used b=-1. But b=1 because the minus sign is already taken into account in the term ##a-b##.

Here's a simple example, to illustrate what you have done. We know ##(3-1)^2 = 2^2 = 4##. What you have done is:
##(3 - 1)^2 = 3^2 - (2)(3)(-1) + (-1)^2 = 9 + 6 + 1 = 16##
This is wrong! It should be:
##(3 - 1)^2 = 3^2 - (2)(3)(1) + 1^2 = 9 - 6 + 1 = 4##.

This is very important basic algebra, so you need to make sure you master it.

CaliforniaRoll88 said:
##(4k-2)^2=(4k)^2-2(4k)(-2)+(-2)^2=16k^2+16k+4##
No. Same mistake as described above.

CaliforniaRoll88 said:
##(3k-1)^2+(4k-2)^2=25k^2+22k+5##
This expression (when corrected) must be equal to 100, This gives you a quadratic equation you can solve to find ##k##. Then you know Q##(3k,4k)## and the problem is done.

CaliforniaRoll88 said:
@Steve4Physics, I can see that I am using the quadratic formula method. How do I employ the Law of Cosines here?
You do not need the law of cosines if you use the above method.
 
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