Taylor Series Expansion - Don't understand how to use

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The discussion revolves around approximating a function using Taylor series expansion. The function in question is V(x) = V0(1 - e^(x/a))^2 - V0, where V0 and a are constants. Participants are exploring how to linearize this function and approximate it to a second-order term.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to approximate the function around a specific value, questioning how to proceed without that value. There are attempts to differentiate the function and apply the Taylor series definition, leading to confusion about the results.

Discussion Status

Some participants suggest expanding the exponential function in a series about x=0 and keeping only relevant terms. There is ongoing exploration of how to substitute these terms back into the original function, with various interpretations and attempts to reconcile differences in results.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the Taylor series can be applied, but there is uncertainty about the coefficients and the correct approach to take. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations regarding the approximation process and the handling of higher-order terms.

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Homework Statement


This is actually not a problem, it's something in my notes. The function I am supposed to be approximating is

V(x) = V0(1 - ex/a)2 - V0

V0 and a are constants.

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The Attempt at a Solution


It says that the function given is not a parabola. But it can be approximated to a parabola by approximating to the 2nd order term.

Then it says, 2nd order V = V0[(x/a)2 - 1].

Maybe I copied it wrong, but I thought I needed to approximate about a certain value. If you don't know that value, how can you linearize the function?

Also, my understanding is that Taylor expansion uses the formula given here http://mathworld.wolfram.com/TaylorSeries.html

But when I differentiate V(x) I get something completely different.

Can someone either help me get to the result in my notes, or if that result is wrong, help me get the right answer?
 
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It looks like they may have taken V0 = 1 and a = 1, and approximated around 0, if that helps.

Even when I do that though, I get zeros as my coefficients.
 
They're expanding about x=0. Instead of grinding out the series for V(x) using the definition of the Taylor series, try expanding the exponential in a series about x=0, keeping only terms that will in the end contribute to the x2 term, and then doing some algebra.
 
Thanks for your reply. What do you mean by try expanding the exponential in a series about x=0?

You mean just take e^(x/a) and expand that, still using a Taylor series? If I do that I get
the second derivative is (e^(x/a))/a^3

So the term that will contribute to the x^2 term is (1/2a^3)x^2.

Then would I replace the e^(x/a) term in my original equation? If I do I still don't get the same thing. I still don't quite get it...
 
What is the Taylor series for ex about the point x=0? Plug in x/a for x. That's the series for ex/a. Then plug that into your potential function.
 
Ok.

The taylor series for ex about x = 0 is:
1 + x + (1/2)x2 + (1/6)x3 + ...
Keeping only the x2 term, we have (1/2)x2.

Now, subbing in x/a for x, we get (1/2)(x/a)2.
How come what I did first didn't work? Shouldn't it work out to be the same thing...?

So now plugging my answer into my potential function, I get:
V(x) = V0(1 - (1/2a2)x2) - V0

Still doesn't match =(

Actually with a bit more algebra I get V0 /2 = [-(x/a)2]
 
jumbogala said:
Ok.

The taylor series for ex about x = 0 is:
1 + x + (1/2)x2 + (1/6)x3 + ...
Keeping only the x2 term, we have (1/2)x2.
The idea is that when x<<1, only the first few terms of the series contribute significantly to the sum, so you can approximate the sum well enough by neglecting higher-order terms. That doesn't mean you can just toss everything except one term.

Try keeping just the first three terms of the series and see how it works out.
Now, subbing in x/a for x, we get (1/2)(x/a)2.
How come what I did first didn't work? Shouldn't it work out to be the same thing...?

So now plugging my answer into my potential function, I get:
V(x) = V0(1 - (1/2a2)x2) - V0

Still doesn't match =(

Actually with a bit more algebra I get V0 /2 = [-(x/a)2]
 

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