Temperature inside an enclosed space

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Ceiling spaces can become significantly hotter than ambient outdoor temperatures due to materials that reradiate infrared heat, especially when insulation is present. Shading an outdoor air conditioning unit can help reduce direct solar heating, leading to cooler air temperatures beneath the shade. The effectiveness of shading depends on the materials used, with reflective options being preferable to minimize heat absorption. Air circulation plays a crucial role, as shaded areas can allow cooler air to mix with warmer air. The discussion also touches on the thermal properties of different materials, questioning how they interact with sunlight and heat.
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its summer where i live and the ceiling space gets extremely hot, much hotter than ambient outdoor.

under a shade outdoor, the air temp beneath shade will be colder than air temp in sunlight. yet in a space with no air flow, the temp is always hotter from my experience. why is this? this isn't a greenhouse like inside a car where infrared comes through and becomes trapped. does microwave or longer wavelength pierce the ceiling and get trapped?

i want to shade my air con outdoor unit, what material is best used for this? want to reflect as much sunlight as possible
 
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black hole 123 said:
this isn't a greenhouse like inside a car where infrared comes through and becomes trapped

Yes it is a form of greenhouse. Regardless of the roof type, concrete / slate tiles, corrugated iron, etc Those materials get hot and
reradiate IR (heat) into the roof-space and because that heat can't escape ( even worse if there is ceiling insulation ... batts, insulfluff
etc it will heat up even more
 
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black hole 123 said:
under a shade outdoor, the air temp beneath shade will be colder than air temp in sunlight
Not necessarily..
The shade blocks the sunlight from you, or anything within the shade. Thus there is less of direct heating from solar to a surface.
Air moves around, so an exchange of air from outside the shade with the air within the shade will occur.
It is true though that the air temperature closer to a surface in a shade will be cooler than the air closer to a surface in direct sunlight.

Have you calculated the amount of "saving" you would expect if you shade your air conditioner?
 
ok, i didn't know about the reradiate in IR wavelength.

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