Tension/pulley problem, Newtons second law

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving two objects connected by a string, with one on an incline and the other moving vertically. The user attempts to apply Newton's second law to find the tension in the string and the angle of the incline but encounters issues with their calculations, particularly with the tension force being incorrectly calculated as 20.6 N. There is confusion about whether the external force acting on object B should be included in the free body diagram for object A. The community suggests correcting the sign conventions and removing the external force from the diagram of object A to resolve the discrepancies. Overall, the focus is on accurately applying Newton's laws to solve for tension and angle in the system.
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Homework Statement


Two objects A and B, with masses m1=1.00kg and m2=2.00kg, are connected with an ideal string. Object A is moving on an ideal incline with 0 friction. Object B is moving vertically. A force F is working on object B. Its magnitude is 6.00N. Object b is accelerating downward, with a magnitude og 5.50 m/s^2.

a) Draw a free body diagram for the two objects
b) Find the tension force between the objects
c) Find the angle beta


Homework Equations


Newtons second law


The Attempt at a Solution


Made a free body diagram for each object. Then applied Newtons second law in the x-direction of object A and in the y-direction og object B.
A:
sigma F_x=F-T-m1*sin(beta)=m1*a
sigma F_y=n-m1*g*cos(beta)
B:
sigma F_y=f+T-m2*g=ma

Solved this for the variable T, and ended up with t=20.6 N. Obviously I am doing something wrong here, because when I try to find the angle beta, I end up with cos(beta)>1.

I am not sure whether the force F should be in the free body diagram og object A at all.

Thanks in advance.
 
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eventob said:

Homework Statement


Two objects A and B, with masses m1=1.00kg and m2=2.00kg, are connected with an ideal string. Object A is moving on an ideal incline with 0 friction. Object B is moving vertically. A force F is working on object B. Its magnitude is 6.00N. Object b is accelerating downward, with a magnitude og 5.50 m/s^2.

a) Draw a free body diagram for the two objects
b) Find the tension force between the objects
c) Find the angle beta


Homework Equations


Newtons second law


The Attempt at a Solution


Made a free body diagram for each object. Then applied Newtons second law in the x-direction of object A and in the y-direction og object B.
A:
sigma F_x=F-T-m1*(sin(beta)=m1*a
Does F show up in this free body diagram? And since the block is accelerating down the plane, you have your signage wrong. And you forgot to include the 'g' for the weight component down the plane.
sigma F_y=n-m1*g*cos(beta)
= ? (no acceleration perpendicular to the plane, but this equation is not needed in this problem)
B:
sigma F_y=f+T-m2*g=ma
signage error...net force is down...choose down direction as positive.
I am not sure whether the force F should be in the free body diagram og object A at all.

Thanks in advance.
That is right, get it out of there...
 
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