Tesla Coil as Power Transmitter

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The discussion revolves around the use of Tesla coils as wireless power transmitters, exploring the relationship between voltage, current, and impedance in power transmission. Participants examine the theoretical underpinnings of Tesla coils, their operational principles, and the implications for efficient power transfer.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes Tesla coils as transformers that convert low voltage and high current to high voltage and low current, questioning the necessity of high voltage for power transmission.
  • Another participant suggests that a good antenna requires specific impedance, and higher voltage is needed to push more power into that impedance for efficient transmission.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about whether the secondary coil has the correct impedance compared to the primary coil, proposing a model of two circuits with different voltage and current configurations.
  • Discussion includes the idea that transformers step up or down impedances rather than just voltage or current, emphasizing the importance of impedance matching for maximum power transfer.
  • A participant, identifying as a mechanical engineering student, introduces a formula relating energy stored in a capacitor to voltage, highlighting that higher voltage can significantly increase power output due to the squared relationship.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the role of voltage and impedance in power transmission, with no consensus reached on the necessity of high voltage or the best configurations for efficient transmission.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss concepts such as impedance matching and the effects of voltage on power transmission without resolving the underlying assumptions or mathematical relationships involved.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying electrical engineering, physics, or anyone curious about wireless power transmission technologies and the principles behind Tesla coils.

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I've been trying to hash this problem out with some friends of mine, but we haven't been able to find a satisfactory answer:

Tesla coils are (in an extremely basic sense) like a transformer. There are two coils of wire... the first one having a large current and not-so-large voltage. The second coil has many more turns, so you end up with a large voltage and not-so-large current. Of course, total power (I*V) remains -in a perfect universe- unchanged.

The secondary coil, having high voltage, can make some great sparks. Perfect for science museums and sci-fi movies.

However, back in the day, Tesla intended these coils to act as wireless power transmitters. And indeed they can do just that over short distances. Like an antenna, the secondary coil of the Tesla coil can set up EM waves that propagate.

So here is my question: for power transmission... why do you need high voltage? I understand that you of course need high *power*, but if the power is unchanged going from the first coil (big I, small V) to the second coil (small I, big V), what's the benefit? Is the high voltage able to set up EM waves better than a high current can? Why would that be?
 
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I think the answer you are looking for is that a good antenna has a specific impedance. At the point of being matched for efficient transmitting it appears as a resistance. To push more power into that resistor, you need to apply a higher voltage.
 
So does the secondary coil have the right impedance, while the primary coil doesn't? I'm not sure I quite understand yet.

In my mind, there are two circuits (with antenna in them). LRC circuits, the whole shebang. One of them is configured to have low voltages across the L&C, say, yet high currents. The other is configured to have high voltage across the L&C, yet low currents. Power (I*V) is identical.

And for some reason, the latter transmits better. Is this just a fact, then, that for the above statements to be true... the first instance has a bunch of reactance (which is bad), and the second instance has a bunch of resistance. And resistance, as you say, is what you want. Am I looking at this in the right way?
 
A transformer is commonly thought of as "stepping up" or "stepping down" the voltage. Your first year studies reveal that it can equally be thought of as "stepping down" or "stepping up" the current. Both of these involve the turns ratio 1 : n

More accurately, the transformer can be said to be stepping up or stepping down impedances (or resistances), and by the square of the turns ratio, 1 : n²

So if you have an antenna with an inherent impedance of 300Ω you can drive it with an RF amplifier with an output impedance of 300Ω through a feeder of 300Ω, and everything will be matched. On the other hand, if your amplifier has an output impedance of 50Ω and you have a feeder of 50Ω coax then you could put a transformer right at the antenna to transform 50Ω to 300Ω and again everything will be matched. A suitable turns ratio for the transformer would be 9 : 22

Only with correct matching will you achieve maximum power transfer to the antenna.
 
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i am not an electrical student but mechanical engineering student. so sorry in advance if you don't like my answer. i have found this answer of your question...

The amount of energy available to be sent to the primary is 0.5 x C x V^2
C = Farads
V = voltage that the gap fires at.

You can see here that doubling the value of C (provided your power source is robust enough) will give you twice the power. But doubling the voltage that the capacitor is charged up to will give 4 times the power, because the voltage value is squared, that's why if you want spark length its best to go for a higher voltage power source.
more is the power supplied, more is power carried by secondary circuit, and secondary capacitor (torus) is more charged up to.
 

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