Test Question (Potential Energy): Need help finding answer

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The discussion revolves around solving a physics problem involving potential energy and spring compression. The user calculates the potential energy (PE) of a 4kg block dropped from 0.8m, finding it to be 31.4J, and equates it to the kinetic energy (KE) at the bottom. However, they mistakenly set the gravitational potential energy of the spring to zero instead of accounting for the additional height. The correct approach involves including the gravitational potential energy in the spring's compression equation, leading to a quadratic equation. Clarification is provided that the gravitational force must be factored into the calculations to find the accurate maximum compression of the spring.
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I can't figure out what I did wrong on this test question.

A 4kg block is dropped from a height of 0.8m above a spring, k=120N/m. Find the maximum compression of the spring.

I have the PE at the top is equal to KE at the bottom.
PEtop=31.4J
KEbottom=31.4J

The potential energy in the spring when compressed should equal the KE at the bottom. Based upon that I should be able to find the maximum distance the spring will compress.

KEbottom=Wspring
31.4J=.5*120*x^2
Rearranging x=sqrt(2*31.4/120) and I get x=-0.723m

What am I doing wrong here? Can someone point it out.

Thanks, peace
 
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Remember that the spring is compressing in the vertical direction, so there is more gravitational potential energy to take into account:

Initial gravitational potential energy = Final spring potential energy

mg(x_0+x_{spring})=\frac{1}{2}kx_{spring}^2
 
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Your equation will give me the exact same answer I got.
mg(0.8 + 0) =.5kx^2
 
gokugreene said:
Your equation will give me the exact same answer I got.
mg(0.8 + 0) =.5kx^2

No, in my response, x_spring is the same as x in your response. On the left side, you set the second term to 0, when it should be mgx. It's a quadratic equation.
 
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