Textbook question on power series

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The discussion revolves around the multiplication of power series, specifically focusing on the geometric series and its coefficients. The original poster seeks clarification on why the coefficients for the resulting series yield a value of n+1.

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  • Participants explore the multiplication of the geometric series and examine specific terms to identify patterns in the coefficients. Some suggest using the Cauchy product formula to derive the coefficients, while others question the reasoning behind the n+1 result and express confusion about the summation involved.

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My textbook has an example on multiplication of power series.
" Multiply the geometric series [tex]x^n[/tex] by itself to get a power series for [tex]1/(1-x)^2[/tex] for |x|<1 "
from this we get the [tex]c_{n}[/tex]=n+1
O.K. I get that the coefficients are 1 for all n but why +1.
Could someone please explain this to me if possible.
 
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You want to multiply [tex](1 + x + x^2 + x^3 + ...)(1 + x + x^2 + x^3 + ...)[/tex], so just try few examples first to see what's going on. The [tex]x^0[/tex] term is just [tex]1*1 = 1[/tex], the [tex]x^1[/tex] term is [tex]x*1+1*x = 2x[/tex], the [tex]x^2[/tex] term is [tex]x^2*1 + x*x + 1*x^2 = 3x^2[/tex], and the [tex]x^3[/tex] is [tex]x^3*1 + x^2*x+x*x^2+1*x^3 =4x^3[/tex]. Now, can you begin to see a pattern forming?

Alternatively, you can just apply the formula for the coeffecients of the product series in terms of the coeffecients of the two original series. It looks something like [tex]c_k = \sum^k_{r=0} a_r b_{k-r}[/tex] where the a's and b's are the coeffecients of the original series, and the c's are coeffecients of the product series.
 
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Right call Physics Monkey:
The formula for the Cauchy product of series as it is presented in this http://mwt.e-technik.uni-ulm.de/world/lehre/basic_mathematics/di/node14.php3 .
A quick version is:
Suppose [itex]\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} a_n[/itex] and [itex]\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} b_n[/itex] converge absolutely. Then
[tex]\left( \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} a_n\right) \left( \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} b_n\right) = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \sum_{k=0}^{n} a_{k}b_{n-k}[/tex] also converges absolutely.
Alternately, look here, under the heading A Variant.
 
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O.K. I see what's going on now, thanks. But I still don't get how to get n+1 from [tex]c_k = \sum^k_{r=0} a_r b_{k-r}[/tex] without doing some multiplication. Please explain to me if you can.
 
the answer to you above question

Using

[tex]\left( \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} a_n\right) \left( \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} b_n\right) = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \sum_{k=0}^{n} a_{k}b_{n-k}[/tex]

we have

[tex]\left( \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} x^n\right) \left( \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} x^n\right) = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \sum_{k=0}^{n} x^{k}x^{n-k} = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \sum_{k=0}^{n} x^{k+(n-k)} = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} x^{n} \sum_{k=0}^{n} 1 = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}(n+1) x^{n}[/tex]

where [itex]\sum_{k=0}^{n} 1 =n+1[/itex] is the answer to you above question.
 
O.K. I getting close to understanding this. What puzzles me is the last sum. Do you put n+1 so the first term isn't 0? I think I'm missing some information to understand this.
 
We put n+1 because that is what it is... You're adding up the number 1, n+1 times, so the answer is n+1.

But what's wrong with just multiplying out the power series?You can multiply (1+x+x^2+...)(1+x+x^2+...)

and count and think and, well, it's just true... there is nothing clever going on. to end up with x^n in the product you can only get it from multiplying x^r in the first and x^{n-r} and each of those multiplications contributes 1 to the coefficiant of x^n and there is one contributrion from each r as r goes from 0 to n so you get 1 added up n+1 times.
 
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I think I understand this no, just hvae to get some practice solving these kind of problems. Thanks.
 

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