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The Arab Opinion

  1. May 28, 2003 #1
    Let's monitor this news organisation for propaganda.
    Gulf News
    -we could get a fresh perspective of the war in Iraq.
    -even though the UAE is/was (?) allied with the US strategically, even their official newspaper is skeptical of the logic and intentions of the military and governmnt.
     
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  3. May 28, 2003 #2
    I'm hearing that the situation for the Iraqi is getting better and then one article on the web page says "...and the Iraqis, obviously, feel that things have gone from bad to worse."

    ???

    Who's telling the truth?
     
  4. May 28, 2003 #3
    Probably right now, the Iraqi way of life is worse in general, and will likely remain so for the next decade...especially if Bush inserts a 'faith-based' government.
     
  5. May 28, 2003 #4
    I wonder what "faith-based" government he's thinking about.
     
  6. May 28, 2003 #5
    Not really the impression I've got, but
    certainly wouldn't help and would be a terrible idea. I hope he isn't that stupid.
     
  7. May 28, 2003 #6

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    He shouldn't insert any government at all. He should help the Iraqis to make their own government. Isn't this what it's all about?
     
  8. May 29, 2003 #7
    lets compare it, what's your source on the former?
    BTW, I think the casualty rate is rising. During the war it was 3 per day, since march 1 famous end of operations speech it has been 1 per day. So long as there's no bill of rights or police there will be no order.
     
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  9. May 29, 2003 #8
    Generally, the US tends to put the next-worst warlord in charge after an occupation. It makes some small amount of sense. because only another warlord has the sheer might to rule the place while America moves out and on. Of course, Iraq used to be secular, but teh new government will most likely be extremist Muslim...which means another invasion in 5 years.
     
  10. May 29, 2003 #9

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    Actually I think that when it comes to nation building, the U.S. (w/ nato) has a better track record then the U.N.
     
  11. May 30, 2003 #10

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    Yeah. People forget we INVENTED nation building and its first incarnation was an unqualified success.

    The Marshall Plan.
     
  12. May 31, 2003 #11
    According to being an Arab , I think I can reflect some of our point of view aboutthe Iraqi issue.

    The situation in Iraq is getting really worse than before , No water , no food , no work, no security , and no freedom of transportaion ... Poeple can't go form a place to plac e, unless they have a permission from the Army. Even if they needed water or food , they have to take permission form the army , and the army doesn't give permissions to everyone , and some poeple really needs food at that moment. Add to that , security has become the biggest problem for the Iraqi poeple , becuase you are not secured even if you're at home, or at work.

    Iraqi poeple will never accpet any forgin governer at it, Iraqi poeple believe that they must be under an Islamic government. No American Warlord , or British , or even NoN-Iraqi human.

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    No ... What All interested Bush is OIL !

    I wonder why I don't belive this ? Why ? Afghanistan ? Vietnam ?
     
  13. May 31, 2003 #12
    Yeah, well...Bush has said repeatedly, and his actions confirm, that he is not at all interested in nation building to begin with.
     
  14. Jun 1, 2003 #13

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    Actually, Bush said recently - and his actions confirm - that we will be occupying Iraq for at least a year because thats how long it will take to stabilize and rebuild the country.
     
  15. Jun 1, 2003 #14

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  16. Jun 1, 2003 #15
    Oh, so Bush lied for two years...like he lied about stabilizing Afghanistan too, obviously.
     
  17. Jun 1, 2003 #16

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    In any case, as the thousands of Iraqi demonstrators wish, they should be offered the choice. However, the US administrators have already refused to allow proponents of a theocracy to enter in eventual elections.
     
  18. Jun 1, 2003 #17

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    What [?]
     
  19. Jun 2, 2003 #18
    The situation is perfect if you are an energy industry executive.
    We expect Bush to lie, but the government of Israel doesn't lie when they say "occupation." Obviously our industries will pump Iraq dry of oil while the military crushes the popular uprisings with an iron fist and beauracracy. The government thinks that this will deter terrorists from striking the US.


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    "Accept the result of a free election" -Mikhail Gorbechav, 1989, on the eve of Solidarity.
     
  20. Jun 4, 2003 #19
    Iraqi poeple will never accpet any forgin governer at it, Iraqi poeple believe that they must be under an Islamic government. No American Warlord , or British , or even NoN-Iraqi human.An Iraqi government can be secular, it does not have to be Islamic to be Iraqi. Even if it were to be Islamic, which Islamic do you suppose it should be? Sunni? Shi'ite (the religion that helped oppress and slaughter the Sunni's?) and what about the 2.5 million Christians? or the Yazidis?, Mandeans?, or Jews? Do you suggest Dhimmi for those who aren't Islamic?


    hi,kat
    wow amazing,iraq with the islamic history for more than 1000 years,ruled by islamic kingdoms century by century, a country of 1001 nights, has 2.5 millions christians?
    good work by our missionaries
    kat, i'd be very happy if u give me the source of the data u just specified
    thanks:smile:
     
  21. Jun 4, 2003 #20

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    Lol, yeah it's amazing that in the heart of what was once Mesopotamia, where for 600 years before islam became an overwhelming power, the Nestorian Church had developed into one of the most successful missionary sending churches probably in the entire history of christianity there might still be christians, even yet more amazing that there might be assyrians still speaking a close dialect to that of Jesus himself.

    Iraq is home to 2.5 million Assyrian Christians, mostly in the city of Mosul. The Assyrians have been oppressed by the Persians, Mongols, Turks, and Arabs over the last several centuries. http://teacher.scholastic.com/scholasticnews/indepth/war-iraq/new_govt/index.asp?article=glossary

    Also, around 2.5 million Christians live in Iraq, mostly Chaldians and Assyrian Roman Catholics, speaking the old Aramaic (Assyrian-Chaldian) language. [​IMG]

    If you need more references just let me know, or you could do a google for "2.5 million christians in Iraq"....:wink:
     
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