The ball's maximum speed relative to the vehicle?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the maximum speed of a ball relative to a NASA test vehicle, which is influenced by a spring. The ball's parameters include a mass of 3.50 kg and a spring constant of 226 N/m, with the vehicle accelerating at 5.00 m/s² until its engines turn off at 45.0 m/s. Participants clarify the calculation of angular frequency (ω) and amplitude (A), with one user initially making a rounding error that affected their results. The maximum speed occurs when the potential energy is minimized, specifically when the displacement (x) is set to zero at the spring's equilibrium point. The conversation emphasizes understanding the relationship between kinetic and potential energy in the context of spring dynamics.
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Homework Statement


Inside a NASA test vehicle, a 3.50-kg ball is pulled along by a horizontal ideal spring fixed to a friction-free table. The force constant of the spring is 226 N/m . The vehicle has a steady acceleration of 5.00 m/s2, and the ball is not oscillating. Suddenly, when the vehicle's speed has reached 45.0 m/s, its engines turn off, thus eliminating its acceleration but not its velocity.

What will be the ball's maximum speed relative to the vehicle?

Homework Equations


v = ±ω√(A2 - x2)
ω = √(k/m)

The Attempt at a Solution


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I solved for ω and got 8.0356 rad/s
I tried to use the v equation above and set x = 0 and got 0.598m/s, the site told me my answer was not quite right possibly due to a round-off error.
 
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Vanessa Avila said:
I solved for ω and got 8.0356 rad/s
OK, that looks good.
I tried to use the v equation above and set x = 0 and got 0.598m/s, the site told me my answer was not quite right possibly due to a round-off error.
What value did you use for A and how did you get it?
 
TSny said:
OK, that looks good.

What value did you use for A and how did you get it?
I used 0.0774 m for A. I go that by kx=m(a), solved for x and had that equal to A.
 
Vanessa Avila said:
I used 0.0774 m for A. I go that by kx=m(a), solved for x and had that equal to A.
OK, good. When I use your values of A and ω, I don't get your answer of 0.598 m/s. Maybe you plugged in 0.0744 instead of 0.0774?
 
TSny said:
OK, good. When I use your values of A and ω, I don't get your answer of 0.598 m/s. Maybe you plugged in 0.0744 instead of 0.0774?
I did plug in 0.0744! Thank you! I'm being very clumsy today and making really clumsy mistakes. I looked at what i wrote just now and saw that from 0.0774 i changed it to 0.0744. Many thanks! This kinda confused me though. How do we know when to set the x to 0?
 
TSny said:
OK, good. When I use your values of A and ω, I don't get your answer of 0.598 m/s. Maybe you plugged in 0.0744 instead of 0.0774?
Did you get 0.622m/s?
 
Vanessa Avila said:
How do we know when to set the x to 0?
In this problem, you want maximum speed. So, you pick the value of x that will give max speed.
 
Vanessa Avila said:
Did you get 0.622m/s?
Yes.
 
TSny said:
In this problem, you want maximum speed. So, you pick the value of x that will give max speed.
when x is equal to 0, does that always indicate maximum speed at that displacement?
 
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For a mass moving only under the influence of a spring, you will get maximum KE (therefore, max speed) when the PE is minimum. Minimum PE for a spring occurs at what value of x?
 
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TSny said:
For a mass moving only under the influence of a spring, you will get maximum KE (therefore, max speed) when the PE is minimum. Minimum PE for a spring occurs at what value of x?
at its equilibrium point? x=0?
 
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Vanessa Avila said:
at its equilibrium point? x=0?
Right. At the equilibrium point, the spring is unstretched and there is no potential energy stored in the spring. So, all of the energy of the system must be in the form of kinetic energy.
 
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TSny said:
Right. At the equilibrium point, the spring is unstretched and there is no potential energy stored in the spring. So, all of the energy of the system must be in the form of kinetic energy.
That makes more sense now. Thank you!
 
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