The Dominant Source of Earth's Surface Heat: Solar Radiation or Interior Heat?

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The discussion centers on the dominant sources of Earth's surface heat, with participants suggesting that solar radiation vastly outweighs interior heat, estimating a ratio of 100:1. Measurements indicate that crustal heat flow averages between 1-10 mW/m², while solar radiation provides approximately 1370 W/m². Calculations show that Earth absorbs about 214 W/m² after accounting for albedo, yet radiates 387 W/m², raising questions about the greenhouse effect's role in this discrepancy. The complexity of heat transfer and the limitations of using a single albedo value for calculations are also highlighted. Overall, the debate emphasizes the significant impact of solar energy compared to geothermal sources.
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To what extent is Earth's surface heated by heat from the interior? There were differing opinions in my Astrobiology class today. I would guess that solar radiation is by far the dominant source, perhaps 100:1 vs interior heat. Does anyone else have a better guess, or perhaps a source or equation to figure this out?
 
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Crustal heat flows are measured in mW/m2, average runs somewhere between 1-10.
 
yeh compare that to 1370w/m2 from the sun is a big difference.
 
You have an Astrobiology course?! I'm a bit jealous.
 
LURCH said:
You have an Astrobiology course?! I'm a bit jealous.
It's a very cool class, taught by Debra Fisher, one of the key astronomers in the detection of exosolar planets. And we get lots of great guest lecturers too. Nick Platts, Frank Drake, Geoff Marcy, and others.

Here's my attempt to throw some numbers at the temp problem.

Earth’s average temperature: 287K.

Therefore, Earth radiates:

<br /> \begin{array}{l}<br /> E = \sigma T^4 \\ <br /> E = \left( {5.7 \times 10^{ - 8} W/\left( {m^2 } \right)} \right) \times \left( {287} \right)^{} = 387\,W/m^2 \\ <br /> \end{array}<br />

On average, the Earth intercepts its 2-D cross section of the Sun’s flux:

Earth's cross section:
<br /> \pi r^2 = \pi \left( {6378000m} \right)^2 = 1.28 \times 10^{14} m^2 <br />

Solar flux at Earth's distance:
<br /> \frac{{3.8 \times 10^{26} W}}{{4\pi \left( {149580000000m} \right)^2 }} = 1352\,W/m^2 <br />

Earth receives:
<br /> 1.28 \times 10^{14} m^2 \, \times 1352\,W/m^2 = 1.7 \times 10^{17} W<br />

Earth's surface area:
<br /> 4\pi r^2 = 4\pi \left( {6378000m} \right)^2 = 5.1 \times 10^{14} m^2 <br />

So each square meter of Earth's surface receives an average of
<br /> \frac{{1.7 \times 10^{17} W}}{{5.1 \times 10^{14} m^2 }} = 338\,W/m^2 <br />

Earth’s albedo is 0.367, so therefore each square meter absorbs:
<br /> \left( {338\,W/m^2 } \right) \times \left( {1 - 0.367} \right) = 214\,W/m^2 <br />

So Earth is absorbing 214 watts per square meter, but radiating 387 watts per square meter?
My logic is probably flawed. The greehouse effect probably accounts for the difference, not internal heat escaping. Any thoughts?
 
Don't forget the greenhouse effect:

http://zebu.uoregon.edu/~soper/Earth/earthtemp.html"
 
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tony873004 said:
(snip)So Earth is absorbing 214 watts per square meter, but radiating 387 watts per square meter?
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Not too wise to "marry" the number given for albedo; use of 1 for emissiivity when calculating black body radiation for what is a very "tattletale gray" body like a planet accounts for the big part of your discrepancy; the heat transfer problem hidden in the "greenhouse" analogy is not well defined, modeled, or measured.
 
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