The equation to find the frequency of a bouncing ball

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The discussion revolves around an experiment to determine the frequency of a bouncing ping-pong ball dropped from various heights. The original poster is seeking a formula to calculate the frequency based on the height of the drop and the time of the bounces within the first five seconds.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the use of SUVAT equations for motion under constant acceleration and the role of the coefficient of restitution in determining bounce frequency. Questions arise about the relationship between drop height and bounce frequency, as well as the time interval between bounces.

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Several participants have provided hints and guidance regarding the derivation of a formula from the SUVAT equations. There is an ongoing exploration of assumptions related to the behavior of the ball during bounces, and the original poster expresses a desire for detailed understanding.

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The original poster is conducting this experiment as part of a school assignment and aims to present a thorough analysis of their findings.

Carlo Silanu
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Ok so first of all believe me i would not make a new post if i found the answer anywhere online but i i couldn't find it.

Right now i am doing an experiment to find the frequency of a bouncing ping-pong ball with different heights in the given time. I did my experiments with 5 different heights which is 0.30m, 0.60m, 0.90m, 1.2m,1.5m. What i want to find is how many times did the ping-pong ball bounces back when its dropped from a certain height during the first 5 seconds of the drop.

i was wondering is there any equation/formula to find the frequency of the bouncing ball?
 
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Carlo Silanu said:
Ok so first of all believe me i would not make a new post if i found the answer anywhere online but i i couldn't find it.

Right now i am doing an experiment to find the frequency of a bouncing ping-pong ball with different heights in the given time. I did my experiments with 5 different heights which is 0.30m, 0.60m, 0.90m, 1.2m,1.5m. What i want to find is how many times did the ping-pong ball bounces back when its dropped from a certain height during the first 5 seconds of the drop.

i was wondering is there any equation/formula to find the frequency of the bouncing ball?

You need to know the coefficient of restitution between the ball and the floor. This would have to be determined by experiment.
 
Hello Carlo, :welcome:

Interesting experiment ! You can do calculations indeed, provided you are familiar with the so-called SUVAT equations for motion under constan acceleration (from gravity), in particular: $$x = x_0 + v_0 t + (1/2) a t^2$$are you ?

And, since you mention an experiment: I am curious what you are measuring and how you do the experiment in detail :smile: ?
 
BvU said:
Hello Carlo, :welcome:

Interesting experiment ! You can do calculations indeed, provided you are familiar with the so-called SUVAT equations for motion under constan acceleration (from gravity), in particular: $$x = x_0 + v_0 t + (1/2) a t^2$$are you ?

And, since you mention an experiment: I am curious what you are measuring and how you do the experiment in detail :smile: ?

Yes i am familiar with SUVAT equations for motion. so my experiment is about how many times did the ball bounce back from the ground during the first five seconds of the drop. so what i did was dropping the ping-pong ball from different heights to see is there any difference on how many times does the ball bounce back. my hypothesis or my prediction is that the higher the height of the point where the ball is dropped the lower the frequency of the bouncing ball. i did my experiment and the results is the same as i expected which is the frequency gets lower the higher the drop point. What i don't understand is the calculation or equation behind it if there is any. this experiment is actually for a school work I am working on and i want it to be as detailed as possible so i was looking around the internet if there is an equation/formula to find the frequency of a bouncing ball
 
Carlo Silanu said:
Yes i am familiar with SUVAT equations for motion. so my experiment is about how many times did the ball bounce back from the ground during the first five seconds of the drop. so what i did was dropping the ping-pong ball from different heights to see is there any difference on how many times does the ball bounce back. my hypothesis or my prediction is that the higher the height of the point where the ball is dropped the lower the frequency of the bouncing ball. i did my experiment and the results is the same as i expected which is the frequency gets lower the higher the drop point. What i don't understand is the calculation or equation behind it if there is any. this experiment is actually for a school work I am working on and i want it to be as detailed as possible so i was looking around the internet if there is an equation/formula to find the frequency of a bouncing ball

You could start with the assumption that the ball bounces to the same height each time and work it out for yourself.

Did you look up "coefficient of restitution"?
 
Carlo Silanu said:
What i don't understand is the calculation or equation behind it if there is any. this experiment is actually for a school work I am working on and i want it to be as detailed as possible so i was looking around the internet if there is an equation/formula to find the frequency of a bouncing ball
There is such a formula, and you can derive it yourself from the SUVAT equations. PeroK has already given you one big hint, and I'll give you another: how much time passes between bounces?
 
Nugatory said:
There is such a formula, and you can derive it yourself from the SUVAT equations. PeroK has already given you one big hint, and I'll give you another: how much time passes between bounces?
PeroK said:
You could start with the assumption that the ball bounces to the same height each time and work it out for yourself.

Did you look up "coefficient of restitution"?

Thanks Nugatory and Perok for helping me now i got the idea and the equations
 

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