The integral form of Gauss' theorem

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the notation used in Gauss' theorem, specifically the use of the line integral symbol for what is fundamentally a surface integral. Participants explore the implications of this notation and its consistency with mathematical conventions.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why a line integral symbol is used for the surface integral in Gauss' theorem, expressing confusion about the notation.
  • Another participant notes that the integral sign with a circle is used in physics for both line and surface integrals, suggesting that they are distinguished by different differential elements.
  • Some participants propose that a double integral with a circle (oiint) would be a better notation for the surface integral, although they acknowledge technical issues with its implementation in LaTeX.
  • A later reply humorously reflects on the acceptance of conventions, indicating a level of comfort with the existing notation despite the confusion.
  • One participant presents an alternative notation for the surface integral, emphasizing the need for clarity in mathematical representation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriateness of the notation used in Gauss' theorem. There is no consensus on whether the current notation is adequate or if a different representation would be preferable.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention limitations in the notation's clarity and the technical challenges associated with using certain integral symbols in LaTeX, which may affect the discussion of notation.

BearY
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In many texts I have seen, Gauss theorem has the form of$$\frac{q}{\epsilon_0}=\oint\vec{E}d\vec{A}$$
Why a line integral symbol was used for this surface integral everywhere? The more I see it the more I believe there is something wrong with my understanding about this.
I didn't think too much of this problem earlier, I remember I simply dismissed this question with it somehow being an application of the Stokes theorem. but now I am revisiting this question.
 
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BearY said:
Why a line integral symbol was used for this surface integral everywhere?
An integral sign with a circle is commonly used (at least in physics textbooks) for both a line integral around a closed path, and a surface integral over a closed surface. The two kinds of integrals are usually distinguished by using something like ##d \vec l## for line integrals and ##d \vec a## for surface integrals.
 
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<br /> \iint\hspace{-3.1ex}\bigcirc\ \vec E \cdot d\vec A<br />
 

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