The magnitude and direction of the minimum magnetic field

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The discussion revolves around calculating the magnitude and direction of a magnetic field related to a wire carrying current, with considerations of forces acting on the wire due to gravity and magnetic interactions.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between force, current, and magnetic field strength using the formula F=ILB. Some question how to determine the force acting on the wire, while others discuss the implications of turning off the current.

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There are multiple calculations presented, with some participants questioning the accuracy of mass and force values. Suggestions have been made to express equations symbolically before substituting numerical values, indicating a focus on clarifying the setup and assumptions involved.

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Participants note discrepancies in mass values and the need for proper units. The direction of the magnetic field is also highlighted as ambiguous, prompting calls for clearer definitions based on the context of gravity and current direction.

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A .76 meter long wire runs horizontally and carries a current of 28 A from left to right. What would be the magnitude and direction of the minimum magnetic field to suspend the wire in mid air if the wire has a mass of 46.6 g/m
Relevant Equations
F=ILB
F=ILB
F=(48)(.76)B
F/36.48=B
I am stuck at how to find F, is there a different formula I am missing?
 
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How about a different force? If the current were turned off, would the wire still be suspended in mid air?
 
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Ok, so F=ma so F=(46.6)(-9.8) so the force is 456.68. Using my past calculations, 456.68/36.48=B so B=12.52 T and the direction is perpendicular to the wire, so direction is 90 degrees. Is this correct? Thanks!
 
themountain said:
Ok, so F=ma so F=(46.6)(-9.8) so the force is 456.68. Using my past calculations, 456.68/36.48=B so B=12.52 T and the direction is perpendicular to the wire, so direction is 90 degrees. Is this correct? Thanks!
Not correct.
1. The mass 46.6 is incorrect. It has no units and it's the wrong number.
2. The direction of the B field is ambiguous, 90 degrees relative to what? Use the directions of gravity and the current to specify the direction of the field or, even better, use unit vectors.

I would recommend getting an expression in terms of symbols and then put in the numbers at the very end.
 
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46.6 x .76 =35.416g
so F=(35.416)(-9.8) which means F=347.07
347.07/36.48= 9.514 T and it is towards bottom of the page
 
themountain said:
46.6 x .76 =35.416g
so F=(35.416)(-9.8) which means F=347.07
347.07/36.48= 9.514 T and it is towards bottom of the page
Please put units next to numbers. Your F is still incorrect and so is what you divide it by.
Once more, I would recommend getting an expression in terms of symbols and then put in the numbers at the very end. It would be much easier to find your mistakes.
 

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