The maximum height an object on a wire moves after a collision

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A 0.4 kg bead slides down a frictionless wire and collides elastically with a stationary 0.6 kg ball. The initial calculations for the bead's final velocity before the collision yield 5.422 m/s, but the subsequent calculations for the height the ball reaches are incorrect. The expected height after the collision is 0.96 m, but the calculations lead to a height of only 0.16 m. The discussion emphasizes the need to correctly apply conservation of momentum and energy equations to find the final velocities of both objects. Properly solving these equations will allow for the accurate determination of the height the ball moves up the wire.
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Homework Statement


A. 04 kg bead slides on a curved frictionless wire, starting from rest at point A. At point B, the bead collides elastically with a 0.6-kg ball at rest. Find the height that the ball moves up the wire.

The answer is .96 m.

Homework Equations



m1v1i + m2v2i=m1v1f + m2v2f

The Attempt at a Solution


PE lost by A = KE gained by A by the time it collides with B-->

mgh=1/2mvf^2
0.4 (9.8)(1.5) = 1/2 (0.4)vf^2
vf= square root ((2)(0.4)(9.8)(1.5)/.4)
vf= 5.422 m/sSo I use the equation for elastic collisions. . .

0+ 0.6 (5.422)= 0.4(5.422)+ 0.6 v2f

v2f= 1.8074 m/s

Then I plug in: mgh = 1/2mv^2

.6 (9.8) h = (1.8072^2) .5 .6
h= .16 m

THIS IS WRONG H IS SUPPOSED TO BE .96 m.

I don't know what I'm doing wrong!
 
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0+ 0.6 (5.422)= 0.4(5.422)+ 0.6 v2f

This equation is wrong. It should be

m_1v_{1i}+ m_2v_{2i} = m_1v_{1f} + m_2v_{2f}

Similarly write down the equation for the conservation of energy. Using these two equations solve for final velocities of both the masses.
 
Hello! Thank you for your response.

Using a simplified equation derived from the conservation of energy (Serway & Faughn, 1992):

v1i + v1f = v2f +v2i----> v1f= v2f + v2i - v1i
m1v1i + m2v2i = m1(v2f + v2i - v1i) + m2v2f

I don't know what to plug in. I plug things in, but I am getting an incorrect answer. The answer should be -1.084. I am not getting this answer. Once I find the correct v2f I should be able to perform the last step correctly. . .
 
Using the conservation of momentum and energy, you will get

v_{1f} = \frac{v_{1i}(m_1 - m_2)}{(m_1 + m_2)}

v_{2f} = \frac{2v_{1i}m_1}{(m_1 + m_2)}

Now proceed.
 
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