The no-show rate for passengers with reservations on a flight

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The discussion revolves around calculating the probability of no-shows for passengers with reservations on a flight, specifically addressing a scenario where the no-show rate is 16% and there are 42 reservations. The focus includes both theoretical and practical approaches to solving the problem, including the use of binomial and normal distributions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a problem involving calculating the probability of 4 or more no-shows using a binomial distribution with parameters n=42 and p=0.16.
  • Another participant suggests using the cumulative distribution function (CDF) to find the probability of less than four no-shows and provides a Mathematica code snippet for this calculation.
  • A participant inquires about performing the calculation without software, prompting a suggestion to sum the first four terms of the binomial probability formula for k=0,1,2,3.
  • One participant discusses the interpretation of the no-show rate, suggesting that it implies each passenger has a 0.16 probability of not showing up, leading to a binomial distribution. They express an alternative interpretation that could involve a normal distribution, citing the Central Limit Theorem as a justification for this approximation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the use of a binomial distribution for this problem, but there is some disagreement regarding the interpretation of the no-show rate and the appropriateness of using a normal distribution as an approximation.

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There are assumptions regarding the interpretation of the no-show rate and the conditions under which the binomial distribution is applicable. The discussion does not resolve these interpretations or the choice of distribution.

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Was hoping someone could help me out with a question. It was on a online test and wasnt sure how to do it.

The question was as follows:

The no-show rate for passengers with reservations on a flight run by wizair is 16%. The next flight has 42 reservations.

Find the probability of there being 4 or more no-shows on this flight
 
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You need to consider a binomial distribution with n=42 and p=0.16. The cumulative distribution up to 3 is the probability of there being less than four no-shows: Reaching for Mathematica to put a number to it:
dist = BinomialDistribution[42, 0.16]
1 - CDF[dist, 3]
(0.921048, quite likely)
 


ok but how would i do that on paper, say its a written test with no access to mathematica
 


add up the four first terms of the sum for the CDF: (n choose k)*p^k*q^(n-k) for k=0,1,2,3.
 


yeah i get it now, thanks
 


By the way, SEngstrom is assuming, probably correctly, that saying "The no-show rate for passengers with reservations on a flight run by wizair is 16%" means that anyone passenger has a .16 probability of not showing up- so the probability distribution is a binomial distribution with mean .16.

I would have been inclined to interpret it as meaning that the mean value of the number of passenger who do show up is .16 but that leaves the distribution itself unknown. I might then have been inclined to use a normal distribution but, of course, for reasonably large number of people (such as 42) that well approximates the binomial distribution.

In fact, my reason for choosing the normal distribution (and the reason it is so common) is that, by the "Central Limit Theorem", in a case like this, the binomial distribution is a good approximation to just about every distribution!
 

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