The potential at points around a cone

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The discussion centers on calculating the electric potential at the center of the top of a conical surface with a uniform surface charge. The user presents their solution using cylindrical coordinates and integrates to find the potential, but their result differs from the expected answer. A key point of confusion arises from the logarithmic expressions used in the calculations. Another participant points out that the two logarithmic forms are equivalent, clarifying the discrepancy. The conversation highlights the importance of careful mathematical manipulation in electrostatics problems.
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Homework Statement



"A conical surface (an empty ice-cream cone) carries a uniform surface charge \sigma. The height of the cone is h, as is the radius of the top. Find the potential at the centre of the top, taking infinity as reference point." - Griffiths

My result for the potential differs from the answer's. Can someone please check my solution

Homework Equations



V = \iint_S \frac{1}{4\pi \epsilon_0}\frac{\sigma}{x} dS, where x is the distance from the source to the point.

The Attempt at a Solution



My diagram is in the attached picture.

First off, I used cylindrical coordinates with the equation z = r, z > 0 to graph the cone
I found dS = \sqrt{2}zdA

The distance from any point on the cone to the origin is \sqrt{2} z, so using the cosine law,
x = \sqrt{2z^2-2hz+h^2}

So we have

V = \int_0^h\int_0^{2\pi} \frac{1}{4\pi \epsilon_0} \frac{\sigma}{\sqrt{2z^2-2hz+h^2}} \sqrt{2}z d\theta dz=\frac{\sigma h}{4\epsilon}\ln(2\sqrt{2}+3)


Answer: V = \frac{\sigma h}{2\epsilon}\ln(1+\sqrt{2})


thanks!
 

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Identity said:
V = \int_0^h\int_0^{2\pi} \frac{1}{4\pi \epsilon_0} \frac{\sigma}{\sqrt{2z^2-2hz+h^2}} \sqrt{2}z d\theta dz=\frac{\sigma h}{4\epsilon}\ln(2\sqrt{2}+3)


Answer: V = \frac{\sigma h}{2\epsilon}\ln(1+\sqrt{2})

Hi Identity! :smile:

erm :redface: … 2ln(1 + √2) = ln(3 + 2√2) :wink:
 
:eek: oh my!
thankyou tiny-tim
 
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