The Quiet Earth" & "The Far Side of the Moon": Movie Reviews

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The discussion revolves around various movie recommendations and critiques, highlighting personal favorites and opinions on film quality. "The Quiet Earth" and "Cinderella Man" are praised, while "Memento" receives mixed reviews due to perceived inconsistencies in its plot structure. The conversation also touches on the merits of foreign films, with "Eat Drink Man Woman" being recommended for its engaging storytelling. Participants express frustration with certain films like "Swimming Pool" and "The Sixth Sense," citing confusing endings and plot holes. The group debates the reliability of IMDb ratings, suggesting that popularity often overshadows true film quality. Overall, the thread showcases a diverse range of cinematic tastes, from classic dramas to sci-fi, and emphasizes the subjective nature of film appreciation.
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I've been scouring the video store lately due to travel.

The Quiet Earth: I absolutely loved this movie. I think it's one of the best sci-fi films that I've seen in many years.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089869/

The Far Side of the Moon: [French Canadian] I hate having to read a movie, but I loved this one as well.
http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2683637
 
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I know many great movies if you need something to watch Ivan. Nothing bad like GNAGL, I promise :wink:
 
I have a collection of award winning short movies to watch tonight. I'm sure that none will be as good as Marlon's movie, but I'll give them a watch anyway. :biggrin:

Yeh, I should be going home soon, but I'm definitely on a movie kick now. Another one that I really liked was Cinderella Man.
 
Hmmm, if you want boxing, you should watch Ali! :-p
 
http://www.imdb.com/top_250_films
 
Ivan Seeking said:
The Far Side of the Moon: [French Canadian] I hate having to read a movie, but I loved this one as well.
http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2683637

I like The Dark Side of the Moon.
 
One I didn't see on that list was "Three Days of the Condor", which even by today's standards is an excellent movie. I liked the question, "do we have plans to invade the middle east?".
 
Ivan, have you watched "Memento"?

A WWII tear jerker classic "Mrs Miniver"

Ninotchka ""You are the unfortunate product of a doomed culture."
 
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Evo said:
Ivan, have you watched "Memento"?
I watched it, but it wasn't very memorable. My wife hated it until I reversed the chapters and played it forwards. It was too inconsistent, a problem with a lot of movies and TV shows.
 
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how come i didn't see Tootsie on that list? come on! that movie is freaking amazing!
 
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cyrusabdollahi said:
I know many great movies if you need something to watch Ivan. Nothing bad like GNAGL, I promise :wink:
You like Top Gun and Armageddon. Get out of this thread!:-p
 
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I won't say that this is a great movie, but it has got to be the most frustrating movie that I've ever seen - Swimming Pool.

I won't go into details about the movie, because it will give it away. Let's just say that this is the first ever movie that I've attended where, while the end credits were rolling, some members of the audience were yelling "Can someone tell me what the hell that ending meant?"

Of course, I had the audacity to reply back "Go to Roger Ebert's website. He has a take on meaning of the ending!" In fact, a few members of the audience who had left, came back in and asked me again about what I said (they must have heard the "commotion"). A number of people even stayed around to "argue" about the ending of the movie.

In all the years that I've been to the movie theaters, I've never seen that happening spontaneously. Till this very day, I cannot watch the ending of Swimming Pool, because after reading Roger Ebert's take on the ending, if he's right, it annoys the hell out of me because I felt completely cheated.

Oy... even just typing about it makes me mad! Now I have to go find someone to whack on the head.

Zz.
 
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yomamma said:
http://www.imdb.com/top_250_films
There are a lot of great movies, which are not on that list. I wonder if that list is more about popularity than the quality of the film. Some films are technically great, but have a weak story, others have a great story, but are technically weak.

I agree with Jeff Reid - "Three Days of the Condor" is a great movie.

How about Enemy of the State with Will Smith and Gene Hackman. I thought that was pretty good.

Does anyone remember the Anderson Tapes (1971)?
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
I have a collection of award winning short movies to watch tonight. I'm sure that none will be as good as Marlon's movie, but I'll give them a watch anyway. :biggrin:
Thanks man, appreciate it. This movie thing is quite important to me. Anyhow, i am sure there are a lot of short movies that are better.

Another very good movie is "C'est arrive pres de chez vous". It's a Belgian (Wallon, ie the French speaking part) movie that was shot in '92, i believe. The budget was very low but it was a tremendous success.

regards
marlon
 
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Astronuc said:
How about Enemy of the State with Will Smith and Gene Hackman. I thought that was pretty good.
I liked that movie very much. "Walk the line" was a very good film as well. Johnny Cash was not that famous here in Europe before this motion picture came out but now his name is everywhere. Real good performance by the two head stars.

marlon
 
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the man in the white suit was good
Laydykillers
Pink Panther
Baron Munchousen
 
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FredGarvin said:
You like Top Gun and Armageddon. Get out of this thread!:-p

I never said I liked Armageddon. That movie was trash.

You should rent A few good men.
 
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Evo said:
Ivan, have you watched "Memento"?

YES! That was a tough movie but worth it.
 
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cyrusabdollahi said:
You should rent A few good men.

I don't think Fred is into that sort of thing but you might check with Arildno.
 
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I didnt say Brokeback Mountain! :rolleyes:
 
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A Few Good Men, indeed a terrific movie

Just a pitty that Tom Cruise is in it..but Jack Nicholson...what an actor, no ?

marlon
 
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A very entertaining documentary film is "Dead River Rough Cut". It's about some old-timers living in cabins out in northern Maine, and trapping, cutting pulp wood, etc for a living. When the movie started, my wife said "I don't want to watch this one" and after watching it, she's recommending it to all our friends. The thing is, I am intimately familiar with the region and spent a lot of time there as a kid, so I recognized a lot of the movie's locations, including things that no longer exist, like the bridge over the Dead River.
 
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marlon, I just watched your film. Very nice.
 
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turbo-1 said:
marlon, I just watched your film. Very nice.
Thanks...I appreciate it...

But technically, it's NOT my film. I am just playing one of the characters. I did not participate in the filming, editing or storyboard writing myself.

marlon
 
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Probably my all time favorite film is http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113277/" . Nobody can touch this film as far as realism goes, it is very well thought out.

By the way, screw the top 250 imdb. It is a decent gauge if you are looking for a film that might be good, but the imdb rating system is heavily skewed. You'll see new movies come out and they will jump up to a rating of 8. A rating that high should be reserved for something that can hold its own over a period of time, not something that's been out for a day. Also, if someone doesn't like a film (say they hate the actor), they'll often rate a film a 1. If a film gets a 1, it is should be complete trash. I've see a few films on imdb that are rated very low which I thought were ok. For example, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0466664/" received a 3.5. I didn't think it was a good film, but it wasn't that bad that it deserved a 3.5.
 
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I'm going to lay it down for ya:
The Shawshank Redemption (#1 all-time)
The Count of Monte Cristo
The Gladiator
Forrest Gump
Antione Fisher
The Field of Dreams
October Sky
Contact
The Matrix (Don't get me started)
Star Wars (again, don't get me started)
The Last of the Dogmen

Your lucky I can't remember anymore...

I'm not very old, so I haven't seen a lot of old movies. However, I've seen tons of movies since '98 on and I have a very strict rating system. You can omit The Matrix and Star Wars from the list if you feel so inclined (I am a little biased on sci-fi movies). I also didn't list any humor movies for those who aren't fond of humor.

The movies I listed are must sees for anyone. My personal guarantee you won't be disappointed.

Paden Roder
 
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marlon said:
Thanks...I appreciate it...

But technically, it's NOT my film. I am just playing one of the characters. I did not participate in the filming, editing or storyboard writing myself.

marlon
Well, I'm following the US (likely) convention, like "Did you see the new Nicholson movie?" Thanks for linking "Remembrance".
 
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turbo-1 said:
Well, I'm following the US (likely) convention, like "Did you see the new Nicholson movie?" Thanks for linking "Remembrance".
:approve: got it...:cool:

marlon
 
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marlon said:
A Few Good Men, indeed a terrific movie

Just a pitty that Tom Cruise is in it..but Jack Nicholson...what an actor, no ?

marlon

Hey, let's be fair, Cruise was good in that movie. :wink:
 
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Jeff Reid said:
I watched it, but it wasn't very memorable. My wife hated it until I reversed the chapters and played it forwards. It was too inconsistent, a problem with a lot of movies and TV shows.
:smile: She missed the whole point of the movie! The guy was suffering from short term memory and the movie was filmed to give the audience the sense of disconnection that the character suffered. That is why it was filmed in reverse order in ten minute segments. It was fascinating to watch the sequence of events unwind and each segment could give you an entirely different perception of who was good, who was bad, who you could trust, which was the character's dilema.
 
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Evo said:
Evo said:
memento
I watched it, but it wasn't very memorable. It was too inconsistent
The guy was suffering from short term memory and the movie was filmed to give the audience the sense of disconnection that the character suffered.
I didn't mind the movie in reverse concept, but the main character's memory loss timing kept varying during the movie just to make the script work. Sometimes he'd lose track of things in a short period of time, yet at other moments, he'd be able to focus on a single task for a very long period of time: he was able to drive fairly long distances without losing track of where he was going, including what he would do after arriving at his destination (the "ending" sequence was way too long compared to the other sequences where he lost track of things). Then there's the obvious, why didn't his "partner" simply steal the photos and/or replace them? The main character would have forgotten this happened.

The problem I have with movies like Memento, and Sixth Sense is that the main premise is weak or unsupportable, and it takes an incredible series of coincidences, and/or inconsistencies, and/or outright violations of the main premise itself in order to make such a movie. These movies rank right up there with Star Trek (in terms of inconsistencies).
 
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Jeff Reid said:
I didn't mind the movie in reverse concept, but the main character's memory loss timing kept varying during the movie just to make the script work. Sometimes he'd lose track of things in a short period of time, yet at other moments, he'd be able to focus on a single task for a very long period of time: he was able to drive fairly long distances without losing track of where he was going, including what he would do after arriving at his destination (the "ending" sequence was way too long compared to the other sequences where he lost track of things). Then there's the obvious, why didn't his "partner" simply steal the photos and/or replace them? The main character would have forgotten this happened.

The problem I have with movies like Memento, and Sixth Sense is that the main premise is weak or unsupportable, and it takes an incredible series of coincidences, and/or inconsistencies, and/or outright violations of the main premise itself in order to make such a movie. These movies rank right up there with Star Trek (in terms of inconsistencies).
Geeze, I'm not going to any movies with you. :-p
 
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From the short film "Our Time is Up" ~

Patient: We use soap to remove bacteria from things, but what removes the bacteria from the soap?

Doctor: So that's why you wash the soap with soap?

Patient: Yes, and I wash the soap that washes the soap...but what cleans the bacteria from the soap that washes the soap, that washes the soap? :smile: :smile: :smile:
 
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Some movies have "grown on me" to the point that I have watched them many times. These include:

Crossroads - I love Steve Vai's demonic guitar playing contrasted with that of Ry Cooder (Ralph Macchio's "playing")

Young Frankenstein

Blazing Saddles

My Cousin Vinny

Contact

Braveheart

Rob Roy
 
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Turbo, Most of your list is good, but please tell me it's not THIS crossroads...
 
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Evo said:
Evo said:
memento
Jeff Reid said:
too inconsistent ... rant ...
Geeze ...
I like most movies, it's just the ones that attempt to be just a bit too "clever" end up with a series of coincidences or inconsistencies. If you ever watched the DVD of "Memento" with the directors comments enabled, you get the idea that the director thinks he made a masterpiece. Ditto with the Sixth Sense, too much of a re-hash of old Twilight Zone episodes, where the main character was always a mannequin or toy ...

I do like a lot of movies though. As previously mentioned, Three Days of the Condor was a great movie. I also liked The Matrix, which was clever in that since that most of the movie is in an imaginary world, the characters can develop what appear to be super human powers.

The range of movies I liked include chicks movies like "As good as it gets" to Arnold Schwarzenegger violence mixed with humor movies like Total Recall, Predator, or the Terminator series.
 
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yomamma said:
Turbo, Most of your list is good, but please tell me it's not THIS crossroads...
No way, Jose. It's THIS one. It's got great messages about integrity, maturity, personal goals, loyalty, and it's got some GREAT music. When I pick up a guitar, I play mostly blues. I hosted open-mike blues jams for a few years and have seen some young fellows develop into very credible blues players, so I relate to Ralph's character in the movie, too. If you haven't seen it, rent it.
 
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okay, good...you would have to be banned if it was the other one :smile:
 
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cyrusabdollahi said:
Hey, let's be fair, Cruise was good in that movie. :wink:

:smile:
That's not being a liar, that's being ridiculous:wink:

marlon
 
  • #40
cyrusabdollahi said:
I didnt say Brokeback Mountain! :rolleyes:

Oh, I get it now. "A few good men" is a movie. :rolleyes:
 
  • #41
Arnold movies? :smile: :smile: :smile:

Oh well...a different universe I guess. :biggrin:
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
Oh, I get it now. "A few good men" is a movie. :rolleyes:

You've never seen A few good men? :eek:

You must go watch it!
 
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cyrusabdollahi said:
You've never seen A few good men? :eek:

You must go watch it!

Okay, I see that I will have to explain this. You see, you said that Fred should go out and rent a few good men. I said that he's not into that sort of thing but to check with Arildno.

Do you really think I haven't heard of the movie? :biggrin:

It was a joke!

You know, I never realized for the longest time that people often don't get my jokes...until something around ten years ago. When I think back on all the things that I've said while assuming that surely no one would take me seriously... :smile: :smile: :smile:
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
Arnold movies?
Yes, don't all "real men" enjoy Arnold movies? They will never win any oscars, but they are still entertaining. At least I don't find them annoying since no one takes them seriously.

Personally, the movie that impressed me the most was the first Star Wars. I went to see it before there was any hype. The initial release was relatively low key. I was expecting another "B" sci-fi movie like Buck Rogers in the 21st century, but from the opening scene, I immediately realized that the state of the art for special effects had just been raised significantly.

Regarding movies and tv shows, it is just entertainment, not science. Some of the stories told in movies are good, but all too often the "clever" ones are full of plot faults, which are usually too blatant for me to just ignore. I can watch Terminator or The Matrix occasionally, and still enjoy them. If I watch the Sixth Sense, or Memento, I just get annoyed at the inconsistencies and contrived situations it took in an effort to support a bad premise.
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
you said that Fred should go out and rent a few good men.
... and don't forget, women rent Fred Garvin.
 
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Jeff Reid said:
Yes, don't all "real men" enjoy Arnold movies?

Again, I think that would be a different universe than mine. I think I left that one behind somewhere around the 10th grade. :rolleyes:

If I watch the Sixth Sense, or Memento, I just get annoyed at the inconsistencies and contrived situations it took in an effort to support a bad premise.

Well, the fact that you feel the premises were flawed suggests that you were predisposed to dislike the movies.
 
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Yes, don't all "real men" enjoy Arnold movies?
I think I left that one behind somewhere around the 10th grade.
And yet you watch Sci-Fi movies? So I guess this means that Al Bundy is not your hero? Ok, enough kidding. Life doesn't always have to be serious, especially entertainment. Not that Arnold movies are my favorites, but they are entertaining to me. After reading newspapers, and watching the news, real life in general, I like to take a fun break from this stuff, and this includes watching some less than brilliant movies that just have a fun factor, or good special effects. I rarely go to the movies, most of what we (wife and I) watch are rental DVD's, but we do go see some movies, mostly where the big screen contributes to the movie.

As previously mentioned, I've always like Three Days of the Condor, it was well written, and for once a really smart character was likeable. If you've never seen this one it's definitely worth it. If you like Sci-Fi, Capricorn One is an OK movie with a bit of a twist, some of the scenes are a bit over the top, but the cast includes some of the top actors of the time, and over all it's a descent movie.

I've watched and enjoyed many of the movies in that top 250 list, although my list would be significantly different.

If I watch the Sixth Sense, or Memento, I just get annoyed at the inconsistencies and contrived situations it took in an effort to support a bad premise.
Well, the fact that you feel the premises were flawed suggests that you were predisposed to dislike the movies.
I didn't feel the premises were flawed until after watching the movies. Perhaps with better and more consistent screenplay, the premises could have been made more believable, but as is, there were too many flaws and/or coincidences.

In Memento, the main characters memory retention kept adjusting so that it fit the script, which was annoying to me. One thing is the main character is able to drive from the cave into town and later back again, even though he'd never been there before. In other cases, like when the girl fights with him, leaves and returns in a few minutes, his memory retention is very short, in spite of his efforts to prevent it.

In the Sixth Sense, the premise is introduced by the child, that ghosts don't know they're dead, can't see other ghosts, and only see what they want to see (until some problem is resolved). However the ghost / grandmother is aware she is dead and just wants to stay with the family. The 3 ghosts in the courthouse scene all appear at the same time, which seems very unlikely if they aren't aware of each other. Not obvious from the movie itself, but from the directors comments is the fact that everything "bad" or a "conflict" is red. The doorknob to the basement has a red tint, OK, but the mother of the dead child wears flourescent red to a funeral, which was beyond believable. Then there are the scenes meant to throw off the audience. The main character just happens to be in the kids house with the mom, waiting for the kid to come home. Later, the mom seem oblivious when the kid talks to the main character. In the diner scene, the chair just happens to be already pulled out when the main character sits down, and the wife grabs the check just before he does. Another thing never explained is how do the ghosts recognize who can see and hear them out of the millions of people in a city? How do they find this kid? Anyway, enough ranting about this one movie. I only watched it twice on DVD, first without and then with the directors comments. The second time was to trying to figure out what the director had in mind, but even he makes it clear that some scenes were just meant to throw off the audience, and the "red" thing just seemed uneeded. For that matter the main character didn't need a special twist for the movie to be good.
 
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Movies not on the 250 list that should get at least an honorable mention:

Three Days of the Condor
The Shining
Coma
Capricorn One
Basic Instinct

There are more, but these are all I can think of right now.
 
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Three Days of the Condor is absolutely a favorite.

Metropolis
The Tramp
2001

I find new movies less and less entertaining. With all due respect to a certain special effects artist who could be reading - I would love to do special effects btw - they have gone too far with the effects. For example, I thought the Matrix was boring: Okay, now he runs up the wall and fires in slo-mo, yadda yadda yadda - BORING! It's great to have good effects as part of the movie, but now the special effects often ARE the movie, and that loses me completely.

I tend to be extra forgiving of Sci-Fi movies because I'm always anxious to see what new ideas might be used. Note that The Matrix was first done by Descartes. :biggrin: But IMO there are very few good sci-fi movies made. 2001 was great; too much with the monkeys but okay after that. Star Wars is a classic but part of the allure was the new age of special effects. Like most people, when that first scene played, and the ship kept going on and on, I was blown away! WOW! We had never seen anything like this before and it was immediately obvious. Still, it was a great story of good and evil and worthy as a classic. I don't think I would say the same for any of the sequels.

I like the Star Trek movies but only one or two was actually very good. I wouldn't say that any were great.

Sidebar: Did anyone here see Tom Stoppard's play, Arcadia? That was fun.
 
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Nobody mentioned Contact?
 
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