The sum of two vectors given magnitudes and included angle

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The discussion revolves around finding the sum of two vectors given their magnitudes and the angle between them. The specific context includes the application of the law of cosines and trigonometric principles to determine both the magnitude and direction of the resultant vector.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of the law of cosines to calculate the resultant vector's magnitude and direction. There are attempts to verify calculations based on different sets of vector magnitudes and angles. Some participants question the accuracy of the angle derived from the calculations, particularly in relation to the answer key.

Discussion Status

Some participants express confidence in their methods, while others seek verification of their results. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of differing vector magnitudes on the resultant angle, with suggestions to reconsider the approach when the magnitudes are not equal.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential discrepancies between their calculated angles and those provided in answer keys, leading to discussions about the nature of vector sums and the conditions under which certain assumptions can be made.

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Homework Statement



Given the magnitudes of vectors u and v and the angle θ between them, find sum of u + v. Give the magnitude to the nearest tenth when necessary and give the direction by specifying the angle that the resultant makes with u to the nearest degree.

Homework Equations



|u| = 15, |v| = 15, θ = 116°

The Attempt at a Solution



Knowing only the answer (15.9, 58°) and some trig ideas:

I draw an angle of 116 degrees in the starting point of the trig plane. I drop a line from the angle end side, forming a triangle with a 64 degree angle in quadrant II. The other angles of the triangle are both 58 degrees (116 deg / 2). Both opposite (U) and adjacent (V) sides are 15.

SAS - law of cosines

c^2 = (15)^2 + (15)^2 - 2 (15)(15) cos (64 deg)

c = 15.9

angle = 58 deg

(15.9, 58 deg)


What is the correct method?
 
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I think that is the correct method. Well done! Draw the quadrilateral that the two vectors and the sum make and use trig.
 
Can you verify this?

|u| = 6, |v| = 11, θ = 42

I drew the quadrilateral. From this, 138 deg captures (u + v). Law of cosines using 6, 11, and 138 deg. c = u + v = 15.97. Round to 16. 42 bisected = 21. Calculated answer (16, 21 deg), however, the answer key presents (16, 27 deg). I have no idea how that angle can be 27 so that must be a mistake.
 
Aaron H. said:
Can you verify this?

|u| = 6, |v| = 11, θ = 42

I drew the quadrilateral. From this, 138 deg captures (u + v). Law of cosines using 6, 11, and 138 deg. c = u + v = 15.97. Round to 16. 42 bisected = 21. Calculated answer (16, 21 deg), however, the answer key presents (16, 27 deg). I have no idea how that angle can be 27 so that must be a mistake.

In your last example you had |u|=|v| so you could just bisect the angle. Here |u| and |v| are different. So the angle of u+v won't bisect the angle. You'll have to do a little more trig to find the right angle. You'll want to find the angle between the sides that are 6 and 16 in the triangle whose sides are 6, 11 and 16.
 
Got it, thanks. The angles of the 6-11-16 triangle are 138 deg, 15 deg, and 27 deg. I used the law of cosines. 27 deg is the angle between u and u + v.
 
As written there are an infinite number of answers since u + v is a vector sum. Are you sure it isn't |u + v|?
 

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