The taste of hot water vs. cold water

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The discussion centers on the effects of temperature on water's taste, particularly when heated. It begins with a chemistry lesson on equilibrium, highlighting how increased temperature shifts the equilibrium of the reaction H2O <--> H3O+ + OH-, leading to higher concentrations of hydronium and hydroxide ions. A question is raised about whether this increase in hydronium could be responsible for the unpleasant taste of hot water. Responses suggest that the taste change is likely due to the escape of dissolved gases and the denaturation of organic matter when water is heated, rather than solely the increase in hydronium ions. Additionally, the pH of drinking water is rarely neutral due to dissolved salts, which can also affect taste. The conversation touches on the complexities of water chemistry and includes a reference to a science fiction story about astronauts experiencing changes in water taste due to dissolved gases. Overall, the discussion emphasizes that the taste of heated water is influenced by various factors beyond just temperature.
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In my chemistry class today we learned about equilibrium and how temperature affects the equilibrium constant. An example that was cited was this chemical equation:

H2O <--> H3O+ + OH-

I learned that increasing the heat of the water will drive the equilibrium toward the right side, increasing the concentration of hydronium and hydroxide ions.

I raised my hand in class and asked "is that why hot water tastes bad? you know, because of all the hydronium, perhaps it reacts with the ions in our mouths or something and creates a bad taste in our mouth? maybe?"

I figure it can't be JUST because it's hot. Even water that you've left in your hot car all day tastes like ****, even if you can tolerate the temperature. It's just awful tasting. I know that the ratio of hydronium to hydroxide would remain constant and wouldn't necessarily change the pH of the solution, but its more complicated because of equilibrium yada yada yada, right?

My teacher did not have an answer.

So... yes? no? maybe?
 
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Coitus said:
In my chemistry class today we learned about equilibrium and how temperature affects the equilibrium constant. An example that was cited was this chemical equation:

H2O <--> H3O+ + OH-

I learned that increasing the heat of the water will drive the equilibrium toward the right side, increasing the concentration of hydronium and hydroxide ions.

I raised my hand in class and asked "is that why hot water tastes bad? you know, because of all the hydronium, perhaps it reacts with the ions in our mouths or something and creates a bad taste in our mouth? maybe?"

I figure it can't be JUST because it's hot. Even water that you've left in your hot car all day tastes like ****, even if you can tolerate the temperature. It's just awful tasting. I know that the ratio of hydronium to hydroxide would remain constant and wouldn't necessarily change the pH of the solution, but its more complicated because of equilibrium yada yada yada, right?

My teacher did not have an answer.

So... yes? no? maybe?

hello coitus,
This may be not the good answer but i will try to explain your question with what i think a logical answer. Water we drinks is not 100% pure H20; It contains dissolved gases and organic matters. When we are heating the water the dissolved gases escapes and organic matters denatures.This may be the reason why taste of water changes when heating
 
To add to what newbe wrote, pH of the water we drink is never exactly 7, because of the dissolved salts (mostly carbonates) present.
 
Agreed on the dissolved gasses...

FWIW, 'utility-supplied' water may have dissolved chlorine, too. I find our tap water is barely drinkable unless I slosh in 5~~10% of 'sparkling water' to flush the chlorine, replenish the CO2 and lower the pH a bit...

Uh, there was a superb short story by, IIRC, A C Clarke, about Lunar base astronauts who found their water supply gradually tasted too 'wrong' to drink. They could only stomach the recycler's limited output, eventually expired of heat exhaustion and thirst. Flavour turned out to be a surfeit of dissolved oxygen which they could have removed in minutes using an improvised 'boiling stone' and the vacuum outside the base...
 
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Nik_2213 said:
Uh, there was a superb short story by, IIRC, A C Clarke, about Lunar base astronauts who found their water supply gradually tasted too 'wrong' to drink. They could only stomach the recycler's limited output, eventually expired of heat exhaustion and thirst. Flavour turned out to be a surfeit of dissolved oxygen which they could have removed in minutes using an improvised 'boiling stone' and the vacuum outside the base...

Now, THAT's what I call a magnificent story... Thanks for sharing :)
 
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