The zeroth law of thermodynamics

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The discussion centers on the zeroth law of thermodynamics, specifically the conditions under which two systems, A and B, are in thermal equilibrium. It establishes that if systems A and B can exchange energy, their temperatures must be equal at equilibrium, represented mathematically by the equation F(a1, a2, ..., b1, b2, ...) = 0. The relationship between the temperature functions T1 and T2 is derived from the principle that intensive parameters, such as temperature (T) and pressure (P), must be equal when systems are in equilibrium. The proof involves analyzing the change in entropy (dS) with respect to energy transfer (dU) and applying the First Law of Thermodynamics.

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  • Understanding of thermodynamic principles, specifically the First Law of Thermodynamics.
  • Familiarity with the concept of intensive parameters in thermodynamics.
  • Knowledge of mathematical functions and their application in describing physical systems.
  • Basic grasp of entropy and its relationship to energy transfer.
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  • Study the implications of the zeroth law of thermodynamics in various physical systems.
  • Explore the mathematical derivation of temperature functions in thermodynamic equilibrium.
  • Learn about the relationship between entropy and energy transfer in thermodynamic processes.
  • Investigate different types of equilibrium and their effects on intensive parameters.
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This discussion is beneficial for physics students, thermodynamic researchers, and professionals in engineering fields who require a deeper understanding of thermal equilibrium and its mathematical foundations.

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let's assume I have 2 systems A and B. the surface that describes when the 2 systems are in equilibrium is given by F(a1,a1,...,b1,b2,...) = 0.
assuming we can write this surface as A(a1,a2,..)=B(b1,b2,...) why do A and B describes the temperature function of the systems?

in class, we defined the temperature of a system by the value of some coordinate c1 of some system c, when the other coordinates c2,... were determined, when the system is in equilibrium with c.
so for some system A ,I would get some function T1 = c1(a1,a2,...,c2,...) = c1(a1,a2,...)
and from the equilibrium with system B, I would get T2 = A(a1,a2,...)
how do I know T1 is the same as T2? it doesn't even seem to relate

the motive for asking this question was an exercise where some surface f=0 that describes equilibrium between A and B was given, and the goal was
to find the temperature functions of A and B only from the connection f=0.
 
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What you do know, from general thermodynamic principles, is that A and B must be intensive parameters (e.g. T or P for the simplest of systems). Which they are depends on what kind of equilibrium you have established. If you only allow A and B to exchange energy, then, yes, at equilibrium the temperatures must be equal and therefore the functions you list must be the equations of state of the temperature in A and B.

The proof that the temperature must be equal is not hard. Imagine an infinitismal transfer of energy dU from A to B. Write the differential change in the entropy dS as a function of dU, making use of the fact that dS/dU = 1/T and the First Law. Set dS = 0, as required by the system being at equilibrium, and you will find T_A = T_B is required.
 

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