Theories of failure and tensile testing

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the development of theories of failure based on 1-D tensile testing and the potential for expanding these theories to 2-D and 3-D testing. Participants explore the implications, benefits, and limitations of different testing methodologies in understanding material failure, particularly in the context of fatigue and shape-related stress concentrations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question why theories of failure are primarily based on 1-D tensile testing and not expanded to include 2-D or 3-D testing.
  • Others inquire about specific examples where 2-D or 3-D testing might provide advantages over traditional methods.
  • A participant references recent research on the behavior of bent spaghetti, suggesting that the study of fatigue and shape-related stress concentrations could inform the understanding of failure in more complex testing scenarios.
  • There is a repeated inquiry into the rationale behind developing theories of failure for 2-D and 3-D scenarios, indicating a desire for clarification on the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying viewpoints on the necessity and practicality of expanding failure theories beyond 1-D testing. There is no consensus on the benefits or feasibility of 2-D and 3-D testing methodologies, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Limitations in the discussion include a lack of specific examples of 2-D and 3-D testing applications, as well as unresolved questions regarding the assumptions underlying current theories of failure.

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Why theories of failure have been developed from 1-D tensile testing. Why can't we go 2-D testing or 3-D testing?
 
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Can you give any examples of where these additional types of testing would be beneficial?
 
There was recent work on why bent spaghetti shatters rather than 'just' snaps.
https://phys.org/news/2018-08-mathematicians-age-old-spaghetti-mystery.html
IIRC, they found that applying torsion to um, pre-stress it made it snap clean when bent...

Per OP's query, I think the answer lies in the study of 'fatigue', where unfortunate shape concentrates flexure damage to initiate failure. Once that begins, a simpler model may approximate...
 
JBA said:
Can you give any examples of where these additional types of testing would be beneficial?
I am just asking why we are using theories of failure to determine 2-D faliure stresses why not practically test it as it is done with 1-D
 
Nik_2213 said:
There was recent work on why bent spaghetti shatters rather than 'just' snaps.
https://phys.org/news/2018-08-mathematicians-age-old-spaghetti-mystery.html
IIRC, they found that applying torsion to um, pre-stress it made it snap clean when bent...

Per OP's query, I think the answer lies in the study of 'fatigue', where unfortunate shape concentrates flexure damage to initiate failure. Once that begins, a simpler model may approximate...
I have a just simple question why theories of faliure was developed for 2-D and 3-D failure??
 

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