Thermal Expansion of thermometer in ice water

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The discussion revolves around the thermal expansion of a mercury thermometer, specifically focusing on determining the temperature of a chemical solution based on the length of the mercury column. The problem involves understanding the relationship between temperature and the corresponding length of the mercury column at different temperatures.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss various methods for calculating temperature based on the length of the mercury column, including ratio calculations and potential use of conversion to Kelvin. There are attempts to clarify the meaning of ratios and how they apply to the problem.

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Several participants have offered different approaches to the problem, including a formula for thermal expansion and a method for calculating temperature based on the change in length of the mercury column. There is recognition of incorrect answers provided by the original poster and attempts to clarify misunderstandings in the calculations.

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Participants note the importance of understanding the initial conditions of the thermometer and the implications of using different reference points for temperature. There is also mention of language barriers affecting the understanding of terms related to the problem.

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Here is a two part problem I'm having trouble with:

The length of the column of mercury in a thermometer is 4cm when the thermometer is immersed in ice water and 23.5cm when the thermometer is immersed in boiled water.
a) What should be the length at room temperature 22degreesCelcius?
I did ratio calculation to find this and got 8.23cm and it was correct

Here is where I'm stuck:
b) if the mercury column is 25.2cm long when the thermometer is immersed in a chemical solution, what is the temperature of the solution (answer in deg.Celsius)

Again i tried doing a ratio: 100degC = 23.5cm
xdegC = 25.2cm
my answer was 107.23degC and I is incorrect...though it makes sense and seems correct to me logically...I'm not really sure where to go from here any advice?:confused: :confused:

Sergio
 
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Try converting the degrees to Kelvin and see if that works.

Edit: I seem to recall an expansion formula such as L=Li*alpha*(T2-T1) where L is the initial length and Li is the length by which it changes. Alpha is a constant. Maybe try solving for T2. Don't know if this is right though.
 
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Not sure what you mean by ratio.

23.5cm - 4cm = 19.5cm over 100 C, so each 1 C division is 0.195cm. Go from there
 
If I use this information...

0.195cm = 1 C
25.2cm = x C

so 0.195(x) = 25.2(1)
x = 25.2/0.195
x = 129.23 C (incorrect)

that what i meant by "ratio" (i study in French don't know English terms that well :P)

so so far i know that 129.23C and 107.23C are incorrect :S
 
(25.2cm - 23.5cm) = 1.7cm, you just need to work out how many degrees C 1.7cm represents. You then add this to 100 C ( the temperature at 23.5cm)
 
Your method is 'wrong' because the x=0cm doesn't represent T = 0 C it represents x= 4cm, T= 0 C.
 
Thanks for clearing this up for me Max (and your patience)

Something just wasn't clicking i guess...i got the correct answer at 108.72C :D

Thx again :)
 

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