Thermal Physics, Homework #1 problem #1

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The discussion revolves around solving a thermal physics homework problem involving localized particles in a magnetic field. Participants clarify how to find the number of accessible states, g(N,M), as a function of magnetization M, and how to calculate the entropy per particle using Stirling's approximation. The maximum number of states occurs when M equals zero, indicating equal populations of spin-up and spin-down particles. The conversation emphasizes applying the provided equations correctly to derive the necessary results. Overall, the focus is on understanding the relationships between the variables and applying statistical mechanics principles to the problem.
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Consider a large number N of localized particles in an external magnetic field H. Each particle has spin 1/2.

Find the number of states, g(N,M), accessible to the system as a function of M=(Nup-Ndown), the magnetization.

Calculate the entropy per particle.

Determine the value of M for which the number of states is a maximum for a given N.


Equations that may help?
N=Nup+Ndown

M=Nup-Ndown

g(N,s)= N!/(Nup!Ndown!)

σ(N,U)=log(g(N,U))



This is my first thermal physics course and I am kinda confused (and overwhelmed) by this first homework assignment if anyone could explain what I am suposed to do, or set me in a direction, I would appreciate it.

Thanks in advance,
Kris
 
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I should note, this homework is due tomorrow morning :(

any help appreciated!
 
Are you familiar with Stirling's Approximation:

<br /> \ln[N!]\approx N\ln[N]-N<br />
 
yes, the stirling's approximation just gives a means to calculate N! for very large N, but I still don't know how to apply that to entropy per particle...
 
Use the equations you are given:

<br /> \sigma=\ln\left[\frac{N!}{N_{up}!N_{down}!}\right]=\ln[N!]-\ln[N_{up}!]-\ln[N_{down}!]<br />

Apply Stirling's approximation to the above, then use the fact that N=N_{up}+N_{down} and M=N_{up}-N_{down}.
 
okay thank you!,

"Determine the value of M for which the number of states is a maximum for a given N."
The value of M should be 0 correct?, because the middle of the Gaussian distribution will be centered at the origin. M=Nup-Ndown
 
scikris said:
okay thank you!,

"Determine the value of M for which the number of states is a maximum for a given N."
The value of M should be 0 correct?, because the middle of the Gaussian distribution will be centered at the origin. M=Nup-Ndown

Correct, but I would say this as "the value of M will be zero because the maximum of the Gaussian distribution will be when N_{up}=N_{down}=N/2\rightarrow M=N_{up}-N_{down}=N_{up}-N_{up}=0" rather than how you have it.
 
okay cool, your equation didnt show up could you re-post it?
 
That is weird, I thought \rightarrow worked here... It should read

N_{up}=N_{down}=N/2 --> M=N_{up}-N_{down}=N_{up}-N_{up}=0
 
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thanks, I think I have got it now.
 
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