What is the Entropy Change When Water Freezes to Ice?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the entropy change when 10 kg of water at 293 K freezes to ice at 263 K under constant pressure. The initial calculations yielded an incorrect entropy change of -15968.4 J/°C, while the correct answer is -13.8 x 10^3 J/°C. The error was attributed to not properly accounting for the latent heat of fusion by multiplying it by the mass of water. Participants acknowledged the potential for textbooks to contain errors and expressed gratitude for the clarification. The final consensus confirms the correct entropy change as -13.8 x 10^3 J/°C.
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Homework Statement



10 kg water temperature 293 K change to ice ( 263 K) at constant pressure. Calculate the entropy change of system
Answer is ##-13.8×10^3 J/°C##

Homework Equations


##c_p = 4180 J/kg-K## (water)
##c_p = 2090 J/kg-K## (ice)
##l_{water→ice} = 3.34×10^5 J/Kg##
##ΔS = \int \frac{dQ}{T} ##

The Attempt at a Solution


##ΔS_1 = \frac{ml}{T}## ;Latent heat ##Q=ml##
##ΔS_1 = \frac{10×3.34×10^5}{273}=12234.4 J/K = 12234.4 J/°C##

##J/°C## equal to ##J/K##
http://www.endmemo.com/convert/specific heat capacity.php

I thank ##ΔS_1 ## should be negative. because water change to ice (lost heat)
So ## ΔS_1 = -12234.4 J/°c##

##ΔS_2= \int \frac{dQ}{T} = mc_p\int \frac{dT}{T}## integral 293 K to 273 K
##ΔS_2= mc_p \ln \frac{273}{293} = 10×4180×\ln \frac{273}{293} = -2955 J/°C##

##ΔS_3= mc_p\int \frac{dT}{T}## integral 273 K to 263 K
##ΔS_3= mc_p \ln \frac{263}{273} = 10×2090×\ln \frac{263}{273} = - 780 J/°C##

So ##ΔS_{sys} = ΔS_1+ΔS_2+ΔS_3 = -12234.4 -2955 - 780 = -15968.4J/°C##

My answer incorrect. Please help
 
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I think you are correct. The answer of -13.8 x 105 is equal to - (10 x 4180 x 20) - (10 x 2090 x 10) - 3.34 x 105. So it looks as if they have calculated ΔH, but forgotten to multiply the latent heat by 10 kg.
 
mjc123 said:
I think you are correct. The answer of -13.8 x 105 is equal to - (10 x 4180 x 20) - (10 x 2090 x 10) - 3.34 x 105. So it looks as if they have calculated ΔH, but forgotten to multiply the latent heat by 10 kg.

I’m sorry. It was my fault. The answer of a question is ##-13.8×10^3 J/°C## I typed wrong. am so sorry
 
I still agree with your answer. Textbooks can be wrong.
 
mjc123 said:
I still agree with your answer. Textbooks can be wrong.
thank you very much
 
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