Thermodynamics problem: Adiabatic free expansion

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The problem involves a rigid, non-conducting tank divided by a membrane, with one side containing nitrogen gas at 3.1 bar and 333.5 K, and the other side evacuated. Upon rupture of the membrane, the gas expands into the entire tank, leading to an adiabatic process where no heat is exchanged and no work is done. The initial reasoning correctly identified that the temperature remains constant due to the lack of work and heat transfer, resulting in a final pressure calculation of 1.03 bar. However, the discussion clarified that the adiabatic process equations were misapplied, and the correct final pressure should be 1.76 bar. The consensus is that the original analysis was correct, and the marking of the answer as wrong was erroneous.
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Homework Statement


A rigid ( ie. Constant volume), non-conducting ( ie. Perfectly insulated, no heat losses or gain) tank with a volume of 4.6 m^3. The tank is divided into two unequal parts by a thin membrane. One side of the membrane representing 1/3 of the tank is filled with nitrogen ( may be assumed to be an ideal gas) at 3.1 bar and 333.5 K. The other side of the membrane is evacuated. The membrane ruptures and the gas fills the entire tank. Heat capacity of nitrogen, Cp=3.5 R.
What is the final pressure of the gas in the tank?

The Attempt at a Solution


My thought was:
Non-conducting means adiabatic, hence Q = 0.
Free expansion, no external work, W = 0.
delta u = Q + W = Cp*(deltaT) = 0. So the temperature stays the same.
Since nitrogen can be assumed to be ideal gas, I used ideal gas law to calculated final pressure.
(P1)*(V1) = (P2)*(V2)
(3.1 bar)*(1/3)V = (P2)*(V)
P2 = 3.1/3 = 1.03 bar


Later on I saw this video lecture by UC Boulder:
http://www.learncheme.com/page/ideal-gas-expansion-closed
I think the question and result are the same for my case. So I summited my answer. But it turned out that the temperature does change, since the gas will do work to expand. Also, the final pressure should be 1.76 bar. I tried to use the adiabatic process equation p2/p1 = (V1/V2)^(Cp/Cv). Still could not get the right answer.

My questions are:
What's wrong with my reasoning? Does that mean the solution in the video is also wrong?
How to solve this problem for final pressure and temperature?

I'd really appreciate your effort. Any hint or solution would be helpful. Thank you.

Best Regards,
Naka
 
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The adiabatic process relationship you used is strictly for reversible process, which in this case the system is not. That's why you're getting the wrong answer
 
Also, it depends on what you choose as your system. If the whole entity inside the tank is the system then V is constant. Which means Work is zero...
 
Your original analysis was flawless. I like SN94's approach in post #3, taking the system as the entire contents of the tank. That certainly confirms that W = 0. So ΔU=0, and there is no change in temperature. And your calculation of the final pressure is correct. My only criticism if that you wrote down the equation for ΔU incorrectly. It should be ΔU=mCvdT, not Cp.

If your answer was marked wrong, whoever marked it wrong was incorrect.

Chet
 
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