Time Dependent Current in a Wire

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The discussion centers on calculating magnetic flux through a wire using the formula for magnetic field strength. The initial attempt at solving the problem yielded an incorrect answer, prompting questions about the use of integrals. Clarifications were provided regarding the correct interpretation of area elements, emphasizing that dA should account for width rather than length. The distinction between single and double integrals was addressed, with a reminder that triple integrals pertain to volume. Ultimately, the correct approach involves integrating over the appropriate area while ensuring the variables are correctly defined.
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flux=\intB dA from .31m to .82
B=u I(enclosed)/2(pi)(d)
d=x
dA=dx L
so ∫ (u)(I)(L)dx / 2(pi)(x) from .31m to .82m remember x=d in the pic. My answer is 3.9687e-7 and its wrong

integral came out to be (u)(I)(L)/2pi (ln(.82) - ln(.31))
u=4(pi)e-7
I=4A
 

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Flop880 said:

Homework Statement



Problem is attached

Homework Equations



A formula sheet is also attached

The Attempt at a Solution



flux=\intB dA from .31m to .82
That "dA" indicates an area - so why is this not a double integral?

B=u I(enclosed)/2(pi)(d)
d=x
dA=dx L
so ∫ (u)(I)(L)dx / 2(pi)(x) from .31m to .82m remember x=d in the pic. My answer is 3.9687e-7 and its wrong
I don't think you've used the formula correctly or you got confused between two different uses.
$$B=\frac{\mu_0 I}{2\pi d}$$... would be the magnetic field strength a distance d from a long straight wire.

The magnetic flux through area dA at position (x,y) would be ##d\Phi = B(x,y,t)\;dA##
You'd have to integrate over the whole LxW area to find the total flux.
 
I just got the right answer by multiplying by the width, not length. so dA= dx w, since dx is the length that's changing times the width which gives area. What do you mean by double integral? Doesn't that give volume?
 
Well done.

note:
Triple integrals give volume. dV=dx.dy.dz,

dA=W.dx is only true when the thing you are integrating does not vary with y
- which is what you have.
 
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