Torque and Equilibrium question

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The problem involves a uniform wooden board in static equilibrium, supported by a nail, with two blocks of different masses positioned at specified distances from the pivot. The goal is to determine the mass of one of the blocks based on the conditions of torque and equilibrium.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the setup of torque equations and the conditions for rotational equilibrium. There is an exploration of how to equate the torques from the two masses acting on the pivot. Some participants question the relationship between distance from the pivot and the required torque.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, attempting to set up equations based on torque. There is a recognition of the need to equate the torques for equilibrium, and some guidance has been provided regarding the formulation of the equations. However, there is still some confusion about the implications of mass placement relative to the pivot.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of static equilibrium and the definitions of torque, with some uncertainty about the application of these concepts to the specific problem setup.

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Homework Statement


A uniform wooden board of mass 10 M is held up by a nail hammered into a wall. A block of mass M rests L/2 away from the pivot. Another block of a certain mass (?) is hung a distance L/3. The system is in static equilibrium.

What is the measure of the mass labeled "?"


Homework Equations


T=(D)(F)



The Attempt at a Solution


I know that the answer is 3M/2, but I just cannot find the thought process behind the answer. I tried to set up an equation so that T=(M)(L/2)= (M)(L/3), to try and find the answer, but obviously it isn't correct. Could I use imaginary numbers for the Mass and the length to find a fake torque then find the mass when it's at equilibrium?

Please, someone help me at least get started, I really need the help
 
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write the two torque acting on pivot due to two masses
 
Sorry, but I don't really understand what you mean. Do I need to set them equal to each other?


So I tried to substitute in fake values and when I found both the torques, they equalled each other. I think I have the right work, but I thought that if the mass was closer to the center of mass it needed more torque.
 
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Yes you need to equate them

If Στ=0 then α=0
which means that body is in rotational equilibrium

SPCPhysicss said:
but I thought that if the mass was closer to the center of mass it needed more torque.

I can't understand you.
 
Hmm I see, so the equation I should write would look like,

(Mg)(L/2)=x(L/3)?

I don't quite know what to do from there I assume you need to divide by a 2? and then somehow multiply the Mass by 3?
 
You wrote the eqn correct

Now just cancel L and take 3 to other side and you'll get ? = 3M/2
 

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