Torsional Vibration of Rotor-Shaft

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The discussion centers on the torsional vibration of a rotor-shaft system, specifically examining the dynamic behavior of a rotor with six degrees of freedom (dof) and the implications of boundary conditions at the shaft ends. Participants explore the mathematical and finite element (FE) models developed for this system, focusing on the restoring moments and natural frequencies associated with torsional motion.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a mathematical model for a rotor mounted on a shaft and questions whether the shaft, with one end attached to a bearing, can provide any torsional restoring moment.
  • Another participant suggests that unless there are significant weights or additional restraints at the shaft ends, measurable torsional restoring moments are unlikely.
  • A third participant explains that a rigid body mode corresponds to a zero natural frequency, indicating that the system can rotate without any strain energy, leading to rigid displacement.
  • A later reply clarifies that the zero natural frequency in rotation results in gross rigid body motion with no restoring moment, a phenomenon common in motor-driven machinery that rotates continuously.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the presence of torsional restoring moments in the system, with some arguing that they are unlikely while others describe the implications of rigid body modes. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific conditions under which torsional restoring moments may or may not exist.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights assumptions about the system's configuration, such as the effects of bearing weights and additional restraints, which may influence the presence of torsional restoring moments. The implications of a free-free system from a torsional perspective are also noted, emphasizing the need for careful consideration of boundary conditions.

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I have developed a mathematical model to study the dynamic behavior of rotor (with 6 dof). It is assumed that rotor is rigidly mounted at the mid point of shaft, and both end of the shaft is attached to ball bearing.

I have developed the FE model for it too, and the frequencies in X, Y, Theta, Phi (in plane translation & rotation) is same in analytical & FE model. However for Psi (out of plane rotation),I assumed that the restoring moment will be provided by the torsional stiffness of shaft (G.J/L) and got a frequency; but in FE model I got a rigid body mode for this dof.

My doubt is, for a shaft whose one end is attached to a bearing, will there be any torsion / or in other words will it provide any restoring moment ?
 
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Unless there is any significant weight associated with the inside races of the end bearings, the shaft has a very long length, or there is an additional mass or restraint connected to one or both ends of the shaft beyond the bearings, it is hard to see how any there would be any measurable torsional restoring moment from the shaft ends.
 
A rigid body mode is associated with a zero natural frequency. The system you describe is a free-free system from a torsional perspective; it is able to displace angularly without any strain energy. This is what gives rise to the zero natural frequency and the rigid displacement. The system is strain free in this mode.
 
Just to clarify, the zero natural frequency in rotation results in gross rigid body motion with no restoring moment at all. This is common to most motor driven machinery systems that rotate endlessly.
 
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