Total Charge what? potential by line inter

[Phymath]

alright, so i got this potentional equation \Phi = k_e Q e^{-\alpha r}/r
it askes me to find the total charge after calcing the charge density, so
anyway...lets get the field \vec{E}=-\nabla \Phi
so yea then take the divergence fot the charge density
\nabla \bullet \vec{E} = 4 \pi k_e p
so then I am assuming to figure out the "total charge" I am going to use the density in a volume intergral and equate that to 4 \pi k_e Q_{enclosed} but what is my limit? is it is a sphere i can define by radius a as my surface? or what?


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finding the potential associated with a Vector field A by line intergration in polar cords (or any cords for that matter) what's that mean
\oint \vec{A} \bullet d\vec{r} = \Phi (b) - \Phi (a) is that what they're talking about let me know

 

[OlderDan]

I can't exactly follow what you are talking about in the first case. Perpaps you could state the problem more specifically. The potential certainly suggests a spherically symmetric charge distribution. Is that potential good for all r?

Your second question is more or less right, but that integration symbol is for closed path integrals where the resulting potential difference would be zero. You want an integral from point a to point b.

 

[Phymath]

alright arlight,

the first one the total charge is what I am asking what is the "total charge" mean

\int \int^{2\pi}_0 \int^{\pi}_0 \nabla \bullet (-\nabla \Phi) dV = 4 \pi k_e Q_e
whats the last limits to solve for Q_e

 

[jdavel]

Have you calculated divE yet? That gives you the charge density anywhere in space. So...how far out does your integral have to go?

 

[Phymath]

charge density is, p = Q \alpha^2 e^{-\alpha r}}/(4 \pi r) so I am thinking infinity which the intergral is undefined there

 

[OlderDan]

Assuming your charge density is correct (I think it is), the problem with the integral is not the limit at infinity, it's the limit at zero. I believe that if you start the integral at some radius b, you get a gamma function for the result. That's why I was initially wondering if the potential was good for all values of r.

I'm not suggesting that you don't learn to integrate, but I was never that great at it, so I'm glad things like this are on the internet.

http://www.hostsrv.com/webmab/app1/MSP/quickmath/02/pageGenerate?site=quickmath&s1=calculus&s2=integrate&s3=advanced

 

[jdavel]

OlderDan,

But won't there be a differential volume element r^2dr?