Total Precipitable Water Vapor (TQV) and Precipitable Water Vapor (PWV)

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TPW (Total Precipitable Water) and PWV (Precipitable Water Vapor) are equivalent in terms of measurement, with 1 kg/m² corresponding to 1 mm of water. This equivalence arises from the density of water, where 1 m³ of water weighs 1000 kg, and 1 mm of water over 1 m² equals 1 liter, which weighs 1 kg. However, while TPW is a mass measurement (kg/m²) and is temperature-independent, PWV is a volume measurement (mm) that indicates potential rainfall over an unspecified area. The distinction between TPW and TQV (Total Column Water Vapor) is clear, as they serve different purposes and are not the same, with TPW providing a more accurate representation of precipitate mass. For obtaining PWV data from MERRA-2, further specific requests may be needed.
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Total Precipitable Water Vapor (TQV) and Precipitable Water Vapor (PWV) and what is the difference between them and can one be converted to the other?
I found an opinion that TPW (kg/m2) and PWV (mm) are the same thing, but I only found that kg/m2 = 1 mm and did not find any sources confirming that TPW=PWV. How valid is this? And if they are different things, how do you calculate PWV?

P.S. In general, I need to get the PWV from the data of the MERRA-2, maybe there is another request that you can tell me
 
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Melra said:
I found an opinion
can be anything from the supreme court to someone's five year old nephew !

I find the NASA website pretty impressive; surely they must clearly define what the data represents ?

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Melra said:
I found an opinion that TPW (kg/m2) and PWV (mm) are the same thing, but I only found that kg/m2 = 1 mm and did not find any sources confirming that TPW=PWV. How valid is this?
It is valid.
Based on the density of water, they are equivalent.
1 m3 of water weighs 1000 kg.
1 mm per m2 is 1 litre, which weighs 1 kg.

So they are the same, but one is specified as a mass, the other as a volume, specified as a depth of water. I am ignoring the coefficient of thermal expansion.
 
Baluncore said:
So they are the same
Okay, they can be reduced to one dimension. But are PWV and TQV the same thing?
 
Melra said:
But are PWV and TQV the same thing?
Obviously not. They have different names.

TPW is more accurate, and temperature independent, it specifies precipitate by mass in kg/m2.

PWV is not as accurate, but it tells us how much rain we might get, since rainfall is also measured in mm, over an unspecified area.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precipitable_water
 
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