Transverse sinusoidal wave is travelling along a string

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The problem involves proving a relationship between the slope of a transverse sinusoidal wave traveling along a string and the ratio of particle speed to wave speed at a given point. The context is within the study of wave mechanics, specifically focusing on sinusoidal wave equations and their derivatives.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the differentiation of the wave equation and the implications for particle speed. Questions arise regarding the use of specific values in the equations and the definition of slope in this context.

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Some participants are exploring the relationship between particle speed and wave speed, while others are clarifying the definitions and equations involved. There is an acknowledgment of the need to derive the slope and its connection to the wave properties, but no consensus has been reached on the exact formulation.

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Participants reference previous lectures and concepts, indicating that there may be assumptions or definitions that are not fully understood. The discussion hints at a potential gap in knowledge regarding the application of wave mechanics principles.

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Homework Statement


Prove that if a transverse sinusoidal wave is traveling along a string, then the slope at any point of the string is equal to the ratio of the particle speed to wave speed at that point.


The Attempt at a Solution


This is what i did isn't the equation for transverse = y=Asin(kx-wt)
So i differentiate it with respect to "t" therefore getting dy/dt = -wAcos(kx - wt)

cos(kx - wt) = 1

therefore dy/dt = -wA and w = 2pi(F)
So wouldn't it be equal to 2pi(F)A <------------------ just want to make sure but this is for the particle speed??

If so how am i to that the ratio of the particle speed to wave speed at that point is equal?
 
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HI SAGHTD! :smile:

(have an omega: ω and a pi: π :wink:)
SAGHTD said:
Prove that if a transverse sinusoidal wave is traveling along a string, then the slope at any point of the string is equal to the ratio of the particle speed to wave speed at that point.

This is what i did isn't the equation for transverse = y=Asin(kx-wt)
So i differentiate it with respect to "t" therefore getting dy/dt = -wAcos(kx - wt)

cos(kx - wt) = 1

That's right … the particle speed at fixed position x is dy/dt.

But why are you putting cos(kx - ωt) = 1 ? :confused:

And where is your equation for the slope?
 
Oh...i remembered that before how our lecturer was telling us to sub cos(kx – ωt) as 1 to acquire Umax. Didn't really understand that much of it tho... :frown:
Equation for the slope is what i don’t really get . Didn’t the question say that they wanted the ratio of the particle speed to wave speed at that point? Now what little i understand the equation for wave speed would be v = λf so how am i to really give a ratio between these two equations?
 
Hi SAGHTD! :smile:
SAGHTD said:
Oh...i remembered that before how our lecturer was telling us to sub cos(kx – ωt) as 1 to acquire Umax.

He only meant that if you have y = Asin(kx – ωt) or dy/dt = Aωcos(kx – ωt), then the maximum values of y and dy/dt are by putting cos = 1, ie they're A and Aω. :wink:

(but this question doesn't ask you for that)
Equation for the slope is what i don’t really get .

Slope is distance/distance, so it here it must mean dy/dx …

they're asking for a formula to convert dy/dx to dy/dt. :smile:
 
OMG Thanks i got it out! I understand :D
 

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