Trigonometry: Solving for Cosine Using Segment Angle and Triangle Properties

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The discussion revolves around finding cos(BETA) using properties of a triangle and a segment of a circle. The user initially struggles with the formula cos(BETA) = (L^2 - 4h^2)/(L^2 + 4h^2) and seeks assistance in deriving it. Participants suggest using the Pythagorean Theorem to determine the third side of the triangle, which is defined as R-h. After some back-and-forth on the calculations, the user ultimately figures out the solution independently. The thread highlights the complexities of trigonometric relationships in geometric contexts.
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Hi,
I have a segment of a circle, and know the following quantities.
I need to find cos(BETA), and I know that it's supposed to be = (L^2 - 4h^2)/(L^2 + 4h^2), and I've been trying this for hours.. I suppose it has something to do with the triangle - as you can find the 3rd side (=radius-h), but I just can't get it.. Can somebody please help me out?

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You could use the Pythagorean Theorem to find the 3rd side. But, there is too much information, so \cos\beta can be expressed many ways.
 
lotrgreengrapes7926 said:
You could use the Pythagorean Theorem to find the 3rd side. But, there is too much information, so \cos\beta can be expressed many ways.
I just took the 3rd side to be R-h.
 
Could you show me how you came up with

\frac {L^2 + 4h^2} {8h} for the hypotenuse. Why not just call it what it is R?
 
Integral said:
Could you show me how you came up with

\frac {L^2 + 4h^2} {8h} for the hypotenuse. Why not just call it what it is R?

Because the 1st part of the question asked me to show that R = that. I got it by Pythagoras theorem...

R^2 = (L/2)^2 + (R-h)^2 (pythag)
R^2 = L^2/4 + R^2 - 2hR + h^2 (expand square terms)
2hR = L^2/4 + h^2 (gather like terms)
8hR = L^2 + 4h^2 (multiply through by 4)
R = (L^2 + 4h^2)/8h (rearrange for R)


The second part of the question is to find cos(BETA) where beta is the half angle, using the above result, and I'm totally stuck on that part.
 
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Never mind guys - I got it eventually! :) Thanks for trying to help though! :)
 
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