Trying to understand granular physics (includes fluid physics)

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This discussion focuses on understanding the physics of granular materials, particularly the forces acting on granules in fluid environments. Key concepts include drag, friction, buoyancy, density, volume, and gravity, which are essential for calculating interactions between granules and fluids. The conversation highlights the need for foundational knowledge in fluid dynamics to analyze scenarios such as gold panning and sediment movement. Resources like the University of Chicago's granular flow research and APS articles are recommended for deeper insights.

PREREQUISITES
  • Fluid dynamics principles, including drag and friction calculations
  • Understanding of buoyancy and density in granular materials
  • Basic knowledge of turbulent flow and its effects on objects
  • Familiarity with the physics of granular flow
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  • Study fluid dynamics, focusing on drag and friction forces
  • Explore buoyancy and density calculations in granular materials
  • Research turbulent flow dynamics and its impact on submerged objects
  • Investigate granular flow mechanics through academic resources and simulations
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Students, researchers, and hobbyists interested in physics, particularly those exploring granular materials in fluid environments, such as gold panning enthusiasts and civil engineers studying sediment transport.

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So I want to know what happens when granules are subjected to forces while around other varieties of granules. My interest comes from two places, wanting to gold pan, and how sand surfaces from dirt at the edges of buildings.

It doesn't make too much sense to me right now, I'm just having a hard time imagining all the forces, and was never taught how to calculate drag and friction forces for fluids. So... I am not so sure where exactly i should start. I know I have drag, friction, boyancy, density, volume, and gravity to calculate.

Another thing is I don't know how to figure out how fast or far a turbulent force will go. Say... I have a cube stone in a flat river, how would the water react? :confused:

If possible I would more like a place that will explain some of this stuff than bother everyone here with all these questions.
 
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EPhantom said:
So I want to know what happens when granules are subjected to forces while around other varieties of granules. My interest comes from two places, wanting to gold pan, and how sand surfaces from dirt at the edges of buildings.

It doesn't make too much sense to me right now, I'm just having a hard time imagining all the forces, and was never taught how to calculate drag and friction forces for fluids. So... I am not so sure where exactly i should start. I know I have drag, friction, boyancy, density, volume, and gravity to calculate.

Are you trying to understand the contact force between two grains, or the dynamics of granular flow?

http://mrsec.uchicago.edu/research/highlights/granular-flow
http://physics.aps.org/articles/v4/86

EPhantom said:
Another thing is I don't know how to figure out how fast or far a turbulent force will go. Say... I have a cube stone in a flat river, how would the water react? :confused:

I'm not sure what you mean- do you refer to the turbulent wake behind an object?
 

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