TTL circuit voltage offset, why -2.5~2.5V and not 0~5V

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the necessity of adjusting the offset voltage of a function generator in TTL circuits, specifically why it is set to shift between -2.5V and 2.5V instead of 0V to 5V. Participants explore the implications of these voltage levels on the functionality of TTL digital circuits, particularly in relation to waveform outputs and their acceptance by TTL logic.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that TTL circuits typically require low voltage levels between 0V and 0.8V and high levels between 2.35V and 2.5V, questioning if this necessitates tuning the offset.
  • Another participant suggests that if the function generator output swings between -2.5V and +2.5V, it must be modified to fit the TTL requirements of 0V to 5V.
  • A participant recounts an experiment where setting the offset to 2.5V allowed a 7-segment display to function correctly, implying that this adjustment was crucial.
  • There is a clarification that with a zero offset, the output swings from -2.5V to +2.5V, and adjusting the offset to +2.5V shifts the waveform to swing from 0V to 5V.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and implications of the offset adjustment, with some supporting the need for a 2.5V offset while others question the clarity of the teacher's instructions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal offset setting for TTL circuit functionality.

Contextual Notes

There are uncertainties regarding the exact requirements for TTL signal levels and the implications of different offset settings on circuit performance. Some assumptions about the teacher's instructions and the function generator's output characteristics remain unverified.

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My teacher asked me to explain the reason why we need to tune the offset of the function generator of a ttl circuit to 2.5v(or -2.5v::didn't hear it clearly!) to create a shift from -2.5v to 2.5v instead of having it shift between 0v to 5v.

I've done some research regarding the high voltage and the low voltage of a ttl circuit, saying that most ttl circuit have a low voltage between 0~0.8v and a high circuit between 2.35v~2.5v, is that reason why we need to tone down(or bump up) the offset??

The question is in the following:

In TTL digital circuits, the “clock” signal like the left-handed picture below is frequently needed. However, the waveform output from F.G. is like the right-handed picture. How do we make the output waveform from F.G. be acceptable by TTL circuits?

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can anybody help me explain the reason also tell me if the offset is to be bump up or tone down, in MHO I would say the offset needs to be tone down to -2.5v, but somehow I heard my teacher said 2.5v.
 
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Hi Jason Chuang.
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In future, please retain the 3 header Homework Help template and arrange your post as best you can under those headings.

I think you might be confused about what your teacher said.

If the output from your function generator swings between -2.5v and +2.5v then it needs to be modified to operate TTL which needs signal levels between 0v and 5v. Can you explain now what he would have told you?
 
I'm new to this forum, what exactly is the 3 header homework template? Sorry if I sound ignorant....

But last week we did some sort of experiment about a counter on a 7 segment display, and when the offset was 0v, I was unable to have it function properly as only 2~15 would show up not the 1, but after I adjusted the offset voltage to 2.5v, everything went well and I finished the experiment.

Why did this happened?? I'm sure setting the offset to 2.5v was the key point to have my 7 segment display to work.
I'm a EE student
 
Jason Chuang said:
I'm new to this forum, what exactly is the 3 header homework template? Sorry if I sound ignorant....

Have a look at other threads in the Homework Help forums, you'll see the section headers in each opening post.

But last week we did some sort of experiment about a counter on a 7 segment display, and when the offset was 0v, I was unable to have it function properly as only 2~15 would show up not the 1, but after I adjusted the offset voltage to 2.5v, everything went well and I finished the experiment.

Why did this happened?? I'm sure setting the offset to 2.5v was the key point to have my 7 segment display to work.
I'm a EE student
You gave the right explanation earlier. I thought I as good as handed you the wording you could use.

TTL won't work properly until you provide it with the signal levels that it is designed for.
 
Jason Chuang said:
I'm new to this forum, what exactly is the 3 header homework template? Sorry if I sound ignorant....

But last week we did some sort of experiment about a counter on a 7 segment display, and when the offset was 0v, I was unable to have it function properly as only 2~15 would show up not the 1, but after I adjusted the offset voltage to 2.5v, everything went well and I finished the experiment.

Why did this happened?? I'm sure setting the offset to 2.5v was the key point to have my 7 segment display to work.
I'm a EE student

With the offset set to zero the output swings from -2.5 to +2.5 eg it's centered on 0V. When you change the offset to +2.5 the whole waveform moves up 2.5v so it now swings from 0 to 5V.
 

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