Two axes in a problem, going from IJK to ijk

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The discussion revolves around understanding the unit vector K in a three-dimensional coordinate system, specifically how it is expressed in terms of the j and k components. The user struggles with the equation K = j*cos(γ) + k*sin(γ) and attempts to derive it, mistakenly arriving at K = j*sin(γ) + k*cos(γ). They explore the implications of the angle γ and the orientation of the triangle used for decomposition, questioning the placement of the right angle in relation to the axes. Ultimately, they recognize that the textbook's formulation aligns with the geometric setup, confirming that the confusion arises from the interpretation of angles and axes. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly visualizing the coordinate system to understand vector components.
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Homework Statement



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I'm having trouble understanding a step in an example problem.

"The Z-axis is vertical and carries the unit vector
\vec{K}=\vec{j}cos(\gamma)+\vec{k}sin(\gamma) "
is what I cannot understand.


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I want to split the K vector into components of j and k, I'm pretty sure.

If I try and do this (see attachment for my triangle), I get
\vec{K}=\vec{j}sin(\gamma)+\vec{k}cos(\gamma)
which is the opposite of what it should be.

Any help would be appreciated.
 

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Your formula can't right. To see this, try looking at the limiting cases. If gamma = 0, then K=j, if gamma = pi/2, then K=k.
 
Just thinking about this,

how do I know which way I should have the triangle going? For example, in the diagram I've attached, I have the 90 degree angle on the Y-axis. To get the answer it appears I should just do the opposite (always have 90 degree angle NOT on the IJK axes or parallel to them). That method seems to work, but I doubt that the correct way of thinking about it.

edit: ignore this. It doesn't work. If I have gamma between y and Z axes (the angle here would be gamma) with right angle along y, then I can get the textbook's solution. But then why doesn't this work if I have gamma between Y and z, with right angle along z ?
they seem to be saying the same thing.
 
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phyzguy said:
Your formula can't right. To see this, try looking at the limiting cases. If gamma = 0, then K=j, if gamma = pi/2, then K=k.

Are you referring to the correct one given by my textbook?
\vec{K}=\vec{j}cos(\gamma)+\vec{k}sin(\gamma)

if gamma = 0 , then the axis xyz would be lined up so y corresponded to Z. That's exactly what the diagram is saying, so I don't see a problem with that. It's just how the textbook has the axis set up.
 
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