Two charged particles fired at each other.

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The discussion centers on calculating the distance of closest approach between a proton and an alpha particle, both fired towards each other with an initial speed of 0.172c. The initial kinetic energy (E_i) is calculated using the formula E_{i}=\frac{1}{2}(m_{p}+m_{\alpha})v^{2} and is found to be 1.11E-11 J. The user initially assumed that the final kinetic energy (E_f) would be zero, leading to an incorrect calculation of the distance (r = 4.16E-17 m). The correct approach involves applying the conservation of momentum alongside energy conservation.

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[SOLVED] Two charged particles fired at each other.

Homework Statement


A proton and an alpha particle (q = +2.00e, m = 4.00u ) are fired directly toward each other from far away, each with an initial speed of 0.172c. What is their distance of closest approach, as measured between their centers? (Hint: There are two conserved quantities. Make use of both.)

Homework Equations



[tex]E_{i}=\frac{1}{2}(m_{p}+m_{\alpha})v^{2} + k_{e}(\frac{q1q2}{\infty})[/tex][tex]E_{f}=\frac{1}{2}(m_{p}+m_{\alpha})0^{2} + k_{e}(\frac{q1q2}{r})[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



As I've shown with the equations above, from my understanding, initially the particles only have kinetic energies since they are an infinite distance away. As they get closer their energies will be converted to potential energy and their velocities will momentarily reach 0 when all the energy is potential, which would give us r.

Subbing in values I get 1.11E-11 J for Ei
So I set Ei = Ef do some algebra and get
[tex]r = k_{e}(\frac{q1q2}{E_{i}})[/tex]

When I do this I get 4.16E-17 m, but this is wrong (according to CAPA). What did I miss?
 
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Figured out that momentum is conserved so I was wrong about my assumption that final kinetic energy would be 0, which in hindsight makes lots of sense.
 

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