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Is it possible for an action (the integral of a Lagrangian) to have more than one stationary value? Why or why not?
The discussion centers on the possibility of an action, defined as the integral of a Lagrangian, having multiple stationary values in the context of Hamiltonian mechanics. It establishes that if a physical system can traverse multiple paths in phase space (q,p), then multiple stationary values may exist. However, this scenario raises questions about the implications for Liouville's theorem, which asserts that the density of system points remains constant over time and that the topology of a volume in phase space must be preserved. The conversation concludes that while multiple trajectories can exist, they do not necessarily violate Liouville's theorem, as only specific paths maintain the required density and topology.
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drvrm said:If there are more than one real path through which the physical system can move in phase space (q,p) then it can have multiple stationary values - but i have yet to see an example of the same