Unable to build a boost converter

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges faced in building a boost converter circuit, including issues with component selection, circuit design, and troubleshooting techniques. Participants share their experiences and seek advice on how to successfully construct and operate a boost converter, as well as related concepts in electronics.

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  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant reports that their boost converter did not work and seeks guidance on how to fix it, mentioning they used a circuit from Wikipedia.
  • Another participant requests details about the specific circuit constructed, asking for a schematic with component values.
  • Concerns are raised about the lack of knowledge regarding the inductance of the inductor used in the circuit.
  • A suggestion is made to use the "Simple Switcher" series of DC-DC converters for better learning, with links to resources provided.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the basics of boost converters and the effectiveness of self-study using Wikipedia.
  • There is a discussion about the practical challenges of building switching power supplies, including layout and component selection.
  • Questions arise about how to detect voltage spikes caused by inductors, with a recommendation to use an oscilloscope for measurement.
  • One participant expresses concern about the potential use of a mechanical switch in the setup, while another emphasizes the importance of not being condescending to learners.
  • There are suggestions for using LTSpice as a virtual oscilloscope for those without access to physical oscilloscopes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and experience with boost converters, indicating that there is no consensus on the best approach to building and troubleshooting the circuit. Multiple competing views on learning resources and practical techniques remain evident.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight limitations in the original poster's tools, such as the absence of an oscilloscope, which may hinder effective troubleshooting and experimentation. There are also references to the need for practical knowledge that may not be covered in theoretical resources.

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David lopez said:
I have tried building a boost converter. It did not work. How do I get it to work? I used the circuit I found on wikipedia.
Which circuit did you construct? Please show your schematic with component values and part numbers.
 
It was the first circuit under circuit analysis that I saw. I don't know the inductance of the inductor I used.
 
David lopez said:
I have tried building a boost converter. It did not work. How do I get it to work?
I would recommend that you stick with the "Simple Switcher" series of DC-DC converters and support information as you learn the basics. There is a lot of great tutorial information published by National Semiconductor (now part of TI), and the parts can be purchased easily at Digikey.com

Helpful design information and calculator software:

http://www.ti.com/tool/SWITCHERSMADESIMPLE-SW?keyMatch=simple switcher&tisearch=Search-EN-Everything
Digikey search for parts, etc:

https://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=simple%20switcher

:smile:
 
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I don't know what the simple switcher
Series of dc-dc converters is?
 
What are the basics. I tried studying the wikipedia article.
 
1) If you follow berkeman's link or search for "simple switcher" you can learn about these ICs. Sorry, some self study may be necessary.

2) The Wikipedia article is the basics. There are many other sources of information out there about switching power supplies.

3) These circuits can be a bit difficult to build if you don't have much experience building electronics. There is a lot of practical knowledge required to avoid problems (thinks like layout, proper component selection, bypass capacitors, cooling, etc.). They are also difficult to do if you aren't very familiar with how they are supposed to work. Trial and error isn't the best approach.

4) I suggest searching IC manufacturers like TI.com or Analog.com to learn more, they have lots of different tools (data sheets, application notes, simulators, reference designs, ...).
 
Can you tell me how to detect the voltage spike caused by an inductor on a breadboard? I really want to know.
 
David lopez said:
Can you tell me how to detect the voltage spike caused by an inductor on a breadboard? I really want to know.
99.999% of the time EEs will use an oscilloscope for this. If the spike is very quick you may need a pretty fast scope. Something like 100MHz bandwidth should be good enough for most circuits.
 
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David lopez said:
I don't know the inductance of the inductor I used.
Could you please post a photo of your setup? That would help us a lot so we could adjust the level of our answers.

I have a very bad feeling that it'll contain a (mechanical) switch ... :nb)
 
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Rive said:
I have a very bad feeling that it'll contain a (mechanical) switch
You mean like a car ignition circuit from the 1950's?
Let's not be condescending to someone learning new stuff. These are not unreasonable questions. There was a time when we had a hard time with circuits like this too.
 
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DaveE said:
These are not unreasonable questions. There was a time when we had a hard time with circuits like this too.
Agreed, but it is going to be hard to help @David lopez with questions like this until he gets at least a basic/cheap USB oscilloscope, IMO. It's one thing to try to learn about DC electronics with only a DVM and a soldering iron as tools, but it's much harder to experiment with building AC circuits (with response in the kHz+ range)...

From a different thread:

berkeman said:
If you do have an oscilloscope, draw the circuit diagram with the pin numbers shown on the opamp, and use the oscilloscope to probe each of the nodes in the circuit. Write down the DC voltage that you find at each node, and scan and attach that drawing to a reply here. That will help us a lot to guide you to get the circuit working.
David lopez said:
I don't have an oscilloscope. I use a
18650 Lithium ion cell as a power source. I am trying to get the phase shift oscillator to oscillate at all.
 
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Aside from book learning, perhaps LTSpice is the next step. A free virtual oscilloscope.
 
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DaveE said:
There was a time when we had a hard time with circuits like this too.
Around the time I had ~ similar problems as the OP here I was happy with a 'boost converter' of mine which could fire a salvaged flash tube after pushing a small button a few times.

Ps.: that was one of my few 'successful' projects from that time:doh:
 
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