Understand the mechanism of capillarity

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The discussion centers on the confusion surrounding the mechanism of capillarity, particularly the forces at play within a capillary tube. It highlights that liquid molecules exert a force on the tube's wall due to surface tension, and according to Newton's third law, the wall exerts an equal and opposite force on the molecules. Despite this, the rise of liquid in the tube occurs because the mass of fluid above the surface provides a reaction force that balances the upward force from surface tension. The conversation also touches on the relationship between surface tension and intermolecular attraction, clarifying that surface tension results from additional attraction among surface molecules. Ultimately, the equilibrium of forces—gravity pulling down and surface tension pulling up—explains the phenomenon of capillary rise.
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I can't convince myself that I understand the mechanism of capillarity.
Say the liquid is of that type that rises through a capillary tube. So it's contact angle should be an acute angle.
Liquid molecules on the surface (in contact of gas) exert a force on the wall (of capilary tube) due to surface tension. According to Newtons third law the wall also exert an equal and opposite force on the molecules in contact. These molecules are also attracted by a same force by their neibouring molecules. These two force should cancel each other, if so then we should not observe the rise...

the book on the table feels a reaction force upward due to its weight, but it does not rises up. Same idea. The molecules in contact with the wall are constantly under the force, it is exerting on the wall. The wall only does something to make things steady. But why there is a rise?

I am sure I am missing something or i have some fundamental misconceptions about the source of surface tension...
 
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Ahmed Abdullah said:
I can't convince myself that I understand the mechanism of capillarity.
Say the liquid is of that type that rises through a capillary tube. So it's contact angle should be an acute angle.
Liquid molecules on the surface (in contact of gas) exert a force on the wall (of capilary tube) due to surface tension. According to Newtons third law the wall also exert an equal and opposite

--- and, tow cables push cars, planes, ships; fishing lines push fish --- careful that you don't substitute intuition for Newton's third.

force on the molecules in contact. These molecules are also attracted by a same force by their neibouring molecules. These two force should cancel

They do; this is what makes capillary rise useful for measuring surface tension.

each other, if so then we should not observe the rise...

the book on the table feels a reaction force upward due to its weight, but it does not rises up. Same idea.

Mass of fluid lifted above surface level outside the capillary provides the reaction force to the surface tension force lifting it in the capillary (or depressing it --- Hg in glass).

The molecules in contact with the wall are constantly under the force, it is exerting on the wall. The wall only does something to make things steady. But why there is a rise?

I am sure I am missing something or i have some fundamental misconceptions about the source of surface tension...
 
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Mass of fluid lifted above surface level outside the capillary provides the reaction force to the surface tension force lifting it in the capillary (or depressing it --- Hg in glass).

Can you simply show how the net force over the liquid ( in a capillary tube) is 2*pi*rcos(theta)*T?
 
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Ahmed Abdullah said:
Can you simply show how the net force over the liquid ( in a capillary tube) is 2*pi*rcos(theta)*T?

If a rhetorical question: yes.

If a question of your understanding: what part of the expression do you not understand?
 
For a rise the liquid must feel some net upward force.
It is said that 2*pi*rcos(theta)*T is the net upward force. But how? The liquid molecules in contact with the wall attract the wall. It is the tension force. The wall also attract the molecules ( it is the reaction force ). So the water molecules are attracted from every direction. So there is no imbalance of force. This part is bothering me.
Hope you understand the problem...
 
Another question: Is there any difference between surface tension and intermolecular(between like and unlike molecules) attraction?
I think the surface tension is due to the extra attraction among surface molecules.
 
Ahmed Abdullah said:
For a rise the liquid must feel some net upward force.

At equilibrium there is zero net force; the upward force, from tension, equals the reaction force, mass of liquid displaced upward times g.

It is said that 2*pi*rcos(theta)*T is the net upward force. But how? The liquid molecules in contact with the wall attract the wall. It is the tension force. The wall also attract the molecules ( it is the reaction force ).

No. It is another way of describing the tension force. The reaction force is provided by gravity.

So the water molecules are attracted from every direction. So there is no imbalance of force. This part is bothering me.
Hope you understand the problem...

Equilibrium. Zero net force --- you hang your coat on a hook on the wall --- gravity pulls it down and the hook pulls it up --- zero net force, and it hangs there stationary. You hang the liquid on the wall of the capillary --- gravity pulls it down and surface tension pulls it up.
 

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