Understanding Correlation between Temperature & CO2

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between carbon dioxide (CO2) levels and temperature, specifically focusing on the mathematical equations and methods used to establish this correlation. Participants explore whether standard correlation equations are applicable and what other equations might be involved in this analysis.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether scientists use a correlation equation or a different mathematical approach to determine the relationship between CO2 and temperature.
  • Another participant suggests that a thermodynamics equation may be involved, considering how energy interacts with CO2 and its impact on temperature.
  • Some participants propose that measuring CO2 and temperature and plotting them could yield a basic linear equation to describe their relationship.
  • A participant speculates that a scatter plot of CO2 versus temperature should yield a high correlation coefficient (r) if the relationship is strong, questioning if this reasoning is correct.
  • There is a suggestion that while creating an equation from a graph is possible, understanding the fundamental factors behind the relationship is likely more complex.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriate mathematical methods to analyze the relationship between CO2 and temperature. There is no consensus on whether a correlation equation is sufficient or if more complex equations are necessary.

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Participants have not provided specific definitions or assumptions regarding the equations discussed, and the complexity of the underlying physics is acknowledged but not fully explored.

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What equation do the scientists use to get the correlation between CO2 and Temperature to find the relationship, is it the correlation equation or do they use a different maths equation?
and if they don't use the correlation equation could it be used to get the same result?
 
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Your question - without context - doesn't make sense. Please elaborate.
 
climate scientists have released graphs that shows that when CO2 increases, temperature also increses and i want to know what formula (if any) do they use to to show that
I was doing correlation questions and i want to know if the correlation equation qould be suitable to find out the correlation number
do i need to explain myself better?
 
It would be a thermo dynamics equation.
At the base of it is the way that energy can pass through CO2 as certain colours of light while other colours (infra-red aka heat) are partially reflected. The equation would most likely involve the specific heat of the world (overall), the energy allowed into the atmosphere with different percentages of CO2 and the energy allowed to escape our atmosphere with different percentages of CO2.
The equation itself is most likely very complicated.
 
Howlin said:
climate scientists have released graphs that shows that when CO2 increases, temperature also increses and i want to know what formula (if any) do they use to to show that

Measure the amount of CO2 and the temperature, plot it. The equation would be that of the line on the graph.

It's a bit basic, but it would do the job.

With that, knowing either value would allow you to work out the other one. E.g. you know the CO2 value, you can get the temperature from it.

Or have I completely missed the point?

As far as I'm aware, there isn't some magic equation which gives you the level of CO2 at any time and the temperature. You have to measure them and work from there.
 
Do you have a link to such a graph by the way?
JaredJames (JJ?) is right, just by viewing the graph you could make an equation, but knowing the fundamental factors of the equation would be far more complex.
 
ok thanks
im thinking out loud
if you do a scatter plot of CO2 on the x-axis and temperature on the y-axis and get a range of values for c02 and the corresponding temperature, it should be a "close" fit line and if you use the correlation equation to find r, the answe should be in the .80's or .90's

Am i wrong in my thinking?
 

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