Understanding Friction Force Calculation for Ball Bearings on a Track

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To calculate the frictional force of a ball bearing sliding across a track, one can use the equation for kinetic energy loss divided by the distance traveled, which is a valid method for determining friction. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding that momentum is conserved only in isolated systems, as external forces can alter momentum conservation. The negative work done by friction reduces the ball's kinetic energy, emphasizing the role of friction in energy transfer. Clarifying the concept of isolated systems is crucial, as it ensures that all energy losses are accounted for without external influences. Understanding these principles is fundamental for accurate calculations in physics.
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Hey guys i was told to calculate the frictional force of a ball bearing when it slide across a track. I was given the initial and final velocities , the distance between them and the weight of the ball. The 1st thing i though of was V^2 = u^2 + 2as and calculate for the deceleration then equate to F=ma. However i was told that i can find the frictional force by dividing the lost in kinetic energy by the distance traveled by the ball. I have not heard of this equation before can someone tell me what this is and where i can read more about it?

Another thing, why do we need to say that momentum is conserved in an isolated system? Cant we just say momentum is conserved without mentioning isolated system?
 
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That'll be the concept of work. The frictional force does work (negative) on the ball bearing, which reduces its kinetic energy.
 
Oh... damn should have though of that... What about isolated system? why do we need to specify inside an isolated system
 
semc said:
Oh... damn should have though of that... What about isolated system? why do we need to specify inside an isolated system

Consider the derivation of the conservation of linear momentum. If we pick a system such that there is a net external force acting on it - that force not being from something within our chosen system - then clearly our derivation does not hold and linear momentum is not conserved for this particular system.
 
You want the system to be isolated so that you can say that all the energy lost goes to heating by friction and not to anything else.
 
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