Understanding maximum power transfer theorem

AI Thread Summary
The maximum power transfer theorem states that maximum power is delivered to a load resistor (R_L) when it equals the Thevenin resistance (R_th). The discussion highlights the mathematical relationships between power, voltage, and resistance, emphasizing that achieving maximum power involves a compromise between the values of R_L and R_th. It notes that while a smaller R_L increases voltage across it, a larger R_L is needed for higher power, creating a balance. Calculus can be used to derive the optimal load resistance for maximum power transfer by finding the derivative of the power equation. The conversation also raises questions about the conditions under which power transfer is minimized, particularly when R_L does not equal R_th.
PainterGuy
Messages
938
Reaction score
72
Hi :)


I'm trying to understand 'background' working of the maximum power transfer which says that power transfer takes place across R_L when it is equal to R_th (R_L is load resistance and R_th is Thevenin resistance). It is easily proved by doing some math.


P=VI, P=I^2.R, P=V^2/R, V=IR


Let's focus on P=V^2/R_L. To have maximum power transfer to R_L, V should be as large as power (V is volts dropped across R_L). V across R_L could be found using voltage divider rule: (R_L x E)/(R_L + R_th). Further R_L should be as little as possible because it is denominator. But also note that making R_L smaller would reduce the volts dropped across R_L.


But now focus on P=I^2.R_L. Compare it with the previous analysis of P=V^2/R_L. In (I^2.R_L), R_L should be as large as possible which is in contrast with the previous analysis which required R_L to be minimum. So some compromise is needed. But there is another point to note. R_L and R_th are in series so if R_L is made too big then the value of I would drop.


I hope you could see where I'm coming from (or, rather trying to come from! :) ). Could you please help me to really understand the working of maximum power transfer theorem? Many thanks.


Cheers
 
Engineering news on Phys.org
You are absolutely right that it is a "compromise". Not surprisingly, this comes at a point of great symmetry. Let's imagine that we have a 5V power supply with 1-ohm V_th. If the load resistor has a value of x (so we can vary it), what is the expression for power across the load resistor?

Wolfram Alpha Expression
 
Last edited:
Power is a combination of voltage and current. If you have 0 load resistance, you have no voltage dropped across it. But if you have infinite load resistance, you will have no current.

I used King's formula to make a better plot with Wolfram. It shows the load power for a 5V 50 ohm source relative to the load resistance. You can clearly see that the plot peaks at the 50 ohm mark.
 
Many thanks, King, Ninja, for the help.

Cheers
 
There's a better way of proving it by using calculus, if you have the background. My professor in a circuit analysis course did this. Find the equation of power for the load resistor and then take it's derivative with respect to RL. Make Vg(source voltage) and Rth(source impedance) constants, though, to simplify the differentiation. The load resistor value for which the derivative of the power is 0 is the value that will achieve maximum power transfer.
http://iamsuhasm.wordpress.com/2009/04/27/proof-for-the-maximum-power-transfer-theorem/
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Hi again,

Just curious to know if there is also a minimum power transfer theorem of some kind.

When R_L is not equal to R_Th, then the power dissipated by the R_L won't be maximum. Is this because of the voltage drop across R_Th?

Please help me out. Thank you

Cheers
 
Hi all I have some confusion about piezoelectrical sensors combination. If i have three acoustic piezoelectrical sensors (with same receive sensitivity in dB ref V/1uPa) placed at specific distance, these sensors receive acoustic signal from a sound source placed at far field distance (Plane Wave) and from broadside. I receive output of these sensors through individual preamplifiers, add them through hardware like summer circuit adder or in software after digitization and in this way got an...
I have recently moved into a new (rather ancient) house and had a few trips of my Residual Current breaker. I dug out my old Socket tester which tell me the three pins are correct. But then the Red warning light tells me my socket(s) fail the loop test. I never had this before but my last house had an overhead supply with no Earth from the company. The tester said "get this checked" and the man said the (high but not ridiculous) earth resistance was acceptable. I stuck a new copper earth...
Thread 'Beauty of old electrical and measuring things, etc.'
Even as a kid, I saw beauty in old devices. That made me want to understand how they worked. I had lots of old things that I keep and now reviving. Old things need to work to see the beauty. Here's what I've done so far. Two views of the gadgets shelves and my small work space: Here's a close up look at the meters, gauges and other measuring things: This is what I think of as surface-mount electrical components and wiring. The components are very old and shows how...

Similar threads

Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
8
Views
3K
Replies
7
Views
3K
Replies
38
Views
4K
Replies
8
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
2K
Back
Top