Understanding Negative Numbers in -2x |X| < 4 Equation

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The discussion revolves around understanding the equation -2x with the condition |x| < 4. Participants clarify that the absolute value affects the domain, indicating that x must be between -4 and 4. There is confusion about how negative inputs yield positive outputs due to the absolute value, particularly regarding the function's behavior at negative x values. The primary takeaway is that the absolute value is used to define the interval for applying the function, not to change the sign of the output. Ultimately, the focus is on correctly interpreting the function's domain and the role of absolute values in determining valid inputs.
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Homework Statement


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This is the solution, the question was find its domain.

Homework Equations


How does |X| (less than or equal to) 4, when a negative number is inputed into -2x how does that = a positive number?

The Attempt at a Solution


On the graph to me All X values < 0 should be negative or atleast until -5
Because the -2x if |x| < 4

If we put f(2) -2 * |2| = -4 which works on the graph but if I put -2 which would equal positive 2 because of the absolute value the graph seems to not make sense for me.
f(-2) should equal -4 as well right?
 
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brycenrg said:

Homework Statement


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This is the solution, the question was find its domain.

Homework Equations


How does |X| (less than or equal to) 4, when a negative number is inputed into -2x how does that = a positive number?

f(-2) = -2(-2) = + 4
f(3) = -2(3) = -6


The Attempt at a Solution


On the graph to me All X values < 0 should be negative or atleast until -5
I think that you are confusing values in the domain with the resulting function values.

The function has three different formulas, with each valid on a different interval. For input values between -4 and 4, the middle formula is used.
brycenrg said:
Because the -2x if |x| < 4

If we put f(2) -2 * |2| = -4 which works on the graph but if I put -2 which would equal positive 2 because of the absolute value the graph seems to not make sense for me.
f(-2) should equal -4 as well right?
You are not graphing y = |x|, which seems to be part of your confusion here. They could just as well have said that the middle formula applies if -4 ≤ x ≤ 4.
 
Thanks for the reply, but aren't you graphing -2*|x| for the interval -4 ≤ x ≤ 4?
For example f(-3) = -6 because -2 *|-3| = -6?
thats why I am thinking the graph at -4 ≤ x ≤ 0 should be negative numbers not positive
 
brycenrg said:
Thanks for the reply, but aren't you graphing -2*|x| for the interval -4 ≤ x ≤ 4?
For example f(-3) = -6 because -2 *|-3| = -6?
thats why I am thinking the graph at -4 ≤ x ≤ 0 should be negative numbers not positive

No. The problem says for |x|<=4, f(x)=-2x. That's not the same as saying for |x|<=4, f(x)=-2|x|.
 
I see I am confused. I thought the right side |x| <= 4 means any value less than or equal to 4 but because its x is in absolute value brackets if x was -1 it would be 1 so then you would plug 1 into -2x? What is the point of the |x| then? Does that make sense on my confusion lol?
 
brycenrg said:
I see I am confused. I thought the right side |x| <= 4 means any value less than or equal to 4
That's not what |x| ≤ 4 means. -5 ≤ 4, but -5 doesn't satisfy |x| ≤ 4.
brycenrg said:
but because its x is in absolute value brackets if x was -1 it would be 1 so then you would plug 1 into -2x?
NO.
brycenrg said:
What is the point of the |x| then?
The ONLY purpose of the absolute value here is to define the interval on which the second formula should be applied.

The second part of the function's definition could have been written as
f(x) = -2x, if -4 ≤ x -4

To answer your question above, f(-1) = -2(-1) = +2.
brycenrg said:
Does that make sense on my confusion lol?
 
Always think! What numbers can I put in for x so |x| is less than 4. I like to think and teach that the absolute of any number is that same exact number but without a sign. So in |x|<4 we are asking which number or numbers, if any, when we ignore the sign will be less than 4. I will give you a hint, there are 7 integers in this set.
 
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