Understanding the Chain Rule in Multivariable Calculus

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Homework Statement
Question: FIND ##\frac{\partial z}{\partial x}, \frac{\partial z}{\partial t}##

Given

##z= x^{y}##

##x =\sqrt{s+t}##

##y=ts^{2}##
Relevant Equations
##\frac{\partial z}{\partial t} =\frac{\partial z}{\partial x}\frac{\partial x}{\partial t}+\frac{\partial z}{\partial y}\frac{\partial y}{\partial t}##
Solution:
##\frac{\partial z}{\partial x} = yx^{y -1}+1##

##\frac{\partial z}{\partial t} =\frac{\partial z}{\partial x}\frac{\partial x}{\partial t}+\frac{\partial z}{\partial y}\frac{\partial y}{\partial t}##
##\frac{\partial z}{\partial t} = (\frac{yx^{y-1} + 1}{2\sqrt{s+t}}) + x^{y}\ln{(y)}s^{2}##

This is my first time doing the chain rule and my professor doesn't give us the answers for questions. So I'm here to ask you guys if I did this correct. I'm very confused was I supposed to input the values given after completion or not?

Thanks
 
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Physics345 said:
Question: dz/dx, dz/dt where z = x^y + x x =sqrt(s+t) y=ts^2

dz/dx = yx^y + 1

dz/dt = dz/dx * dx/dt + dz/dy * dy/dt

dz/dt = (yx^(y-1) + 1)*(1/(2sqrt(s+t)) + ((x^y)ln(y))*(s^2)

= yx^(y-1)/(2sqrt(s+t)) +2sqrt(s+t) + ln(y)*(sx^y)

This is my first time doing the chain rule and my professor doesn't give us the answers for questions. So I'm here to ask you guys if I did this correct. I'm very confused was I supposed to input the values given after completion or not?

Thanks

You should learn a bit of Latex:

https://www.physicsforums.com/help/latexhelp/
I find it almost impossible to parse what you've written but you have the right idea.​
 
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PeroK said:
You should learn a bit of Latex:

https://www.physicsforums.com/help/latexhelp/
I find it almost impossible to parse what you've written but you have the right idea.​
Thanks, I have bookmarked it. Give me a moment to apply the latex.
 
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Physics345 said:
Question: dz/dx, dz/dt where z = x^y + x x =sqrt(s+t) y=ts^2

dz/dx = yx^y + 1

dz/dt = dz/dx * dx/dt + dz/dy * dy/dt

dz/dt = (yx^(y-1) + 1)*(1/(2sqrt(s+t)) + ((x^y)ln(y))*(s^2)

= yx^(y-1)/(2sqrt(s+t)) +2sqrt(s+t) + ln(y)*(sx^y)

This is my first time doing the chain rule and my professor doesn't give us the answers for questions. So I'm here to ask you guys if I did this correct. I'm very confused was I supposed to input the values given after completion or not?

Thanks

To give you start with Latex:

##\frac{\partial z}{\partial t} = (yx^{y-1} + 1)(\frac{1}{2\sqrt{s+t}}) + \dots##

If you reply to this, you can pick up my Latex to edit or cut and paste.
 
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PeroK said:
To give you start with Latex:

##\frac{\partial z}{\partial t} = (yx^{y-1} + 1)(\frac{1}{2\sqrt{s+t}}) + \dots##

If you reply to this, you can pick up my Latex to edit or cut and paste.
Done thanks a lot.
 
Physics345 said:
Done thanks a lot.

For your final answer, you should replace ##x, y## with the relevant functions of ##s, t##. Also, you have ##\ln y## instead of ##\ln x##.

You've definitely got the right approach.
 
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Physics345 said:
Solution:
##\frac{\partial z}{\partial x} = yx^{y -1}+1##
That doesn't look right to me.

Where does the 1 come from and why are you adding it?
 
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SammyS said:
That doesn't look right to me.

Where does the 1 come from and why are you adding it?
Oh, I just realized that. I must have added it as I was applying the latex.
 
PeroK said:
For your final answer, you should replace ##x, y## with the relevant functions of ##s, t##. Also, you have ##\ln y## instead of ##\ln x##.

You've definitely got the right approach.
Another typo. I wish I saw your message earlier. I had my exam today and did not substitute the values.
 
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Either way, the concept was simple. I will come back again when I'm confused.

Thanks, Everyone & Best Wishes,

Physics345
 
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