The discussion centers on the presence of nipples in men, which are identified as modified sweat glands and vestigial structures from mammalian development. Both genders possess mammary glands due to their mammalian nature, with male lactation being a rare but possible phenomenon. The conversation touches on fetal development, noting that nipples form before sex differentiation occurs, leading to the idea that gender is not predetermined until later stages of gestation. Recent research suggests that genetic factors may influence sex determination earlier than previously thought, challenging the notion of a default female development. Hormonal influences are crucial in the development of breasts, as evidenced by the ability of male-to-female transgender individuals to develop breasts through hormone therapy. The discussion also hints at environmental factors, such as estrogen in water supplies, potentially affecting male development. Overall, the presence of male nipples is framed as a result of evolutionary processes where non-harmful traits persist.