Unit Commitment & Governor Gain of Power System: Help Needed

  • Thread starter Thread starter ineedmunchies
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Power Systems
AI Thread Summary
The discussion focuses on the challenges of unit commitment in power systems, specifically selecting power plants based on their loading range and incremental costs. Participants seek clarification on governor gain and governor droop, which are crucial for maintaining synchronization with the grid. Governor gain determines how responsive a unit is to frequency changes, while governor droop allows for load sharing by adjusting the speed setpoint above the actual network frequency. The conversation highlights the importance of economic dispatch and the need to consider factors like start-up heating and system impedance when calculating power output increases. Ultimately, the user found the necessary relations for calculating governor gain and droop, contributing valuable insights to the discussion.
ineedmunchies
Messages
42
Reaction score
0
I've come across a problem on unit commitment to a power system.
i.e. which power plants to use to power a system, which is determined by their loading range, incremental cost of power generation, and the cost of the station running at all.

However I'm being asked to also determine the governor gain of each operational unit (power station).

Anybody able to help me out?
What is governor gain and governor droop?
I can't find anything about them online, I have a feeling they're perhaps terms my lecturer has coined himself.
 
Engineering news on Phys.org
It sounds like the governor would help to control the speed of the turbines or something, to help keep the plant synchronized to the grid? What do your textbooks and other sources say about how to keep your plant synchronized to the grid? What factors are involved? How do you measure how much power you are putting into the grid (and therefore can charge for)?
 
Gain controls how sensitive the governor is to speed/frequency changes seen by that individual unit. A higher gain will result in faster synchronisation and better transient response, but may result in very 'twitchy' governor responses.

Droop is the amount by which the speed setpoint is above the actual network frequency. This mode of running allows a generator to 'load share' with the network to which it is attached, so that power output of that unit can be controlled.

No idea how you'd calculate these based on the information you've provided in your post though.
 
Last edited:
If this is an economic dispatch problem, then aren't they asking how much each unit on-line will need to increase (gain) for a given increase in demand? e.g. for a unit that is cold, you would have to look at start-up heating; for running units, some might be economical to ramp up more based on the system impedance than others.
 
Thanks for all of your answers, very helpful in understanding it. Its a simplified mix of what you've all been saying, its first a costing exercise, and then a problem about gain.

I found the relations i needed for my problem;
governor gain = -(delta P/ delta f)
Where delta f could be found using the governor droop value (delta f = governor droop(%) * f) where f is the original frequency.

I don't know if these will be any use to anybody.
 
Hi all I have some confusion about piezoelectrical sensors combination. If i have three acoustic piezoelectrical sensors (with same receive sensitivity in dB ref V/1uPa) placed at specific distance, these sensors receive acoustic signal from a sound source placed at far field distance (Plane Wave) and from broadside. I receive output of these sensors through individual preamplifiers, add them through hardware like summer circuit adder or in software after digitization and in this way got an...
I have recently moved into a new (rather ancient) house and had a few trips of my Residual Current breaker. I dug out my old Socket tester which tell me the three pins are correct. But then the Red warning light tells me my socket(s) fail the loop test. I never had this before but my last house had an overhead supply with no Earth from the company. The tester said "get this checked" and the man said the (high but not ridiculous) earth resistance was acceptable. I stuck a new copper earth...
I am not an electrical engineering student, but a lowly apprentice electrician. I learn both on the job and also take classes for my apprenticeship. I recently wired my first transformer and I understand that the neutral and ground are bonded together in the transformer or in the service. What I don't understand is, if the neutral is a current carrying conductor, which is then bonded to the ground conductor, why does current only flow back to its source and not on the ground path...
Back
Top