Do Any Bacteria or Archaea Use Metabolic Pathways Other Than Glycolysis?

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The discussion centers on the existence of bacteria and archaea that utilize metabolic pathways distinct from glycolysis. Specifically, hydrotropic methanogens are highlighted for their unique metabolic process, using carbon dioxide and hydrogen to produce methane, which generates ATP without involving glycolysis. The conversation also touches on other metabolic processes such as photosynthesis, chemosynthesis, and the pentose phosphate pathway. Participants express curiosity about the evolutionary origins of these non-glycolytic pathways, questioning whether they stem from a common ancestor or are examples of convergent evolution. While there is acknowledgment of ongoing research in molecular biology regarding this topic, no definitive evidence supporting or refuting the idea of convergent evolution in non-glycolytic pathways has been found. The complexity of understanding the evolution of various metabolic pathways is emphasized, suggesting that definitive answers may remain elusive.
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One more question about the evolution of life, but perhaps not in the Archaen or Proterozoic.

Are there any bacteria or archaea known to use metabolic pathways other than (one or more variants of) glycolysis? Which do not use any form of glycolysis? If so, details please!

I'm particularly interested in whether these cases, if there are any, evolved from a common ancestor, or whether they are examples of convergent evolution.
 
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This was thought to be correct when I researched the topic several years ago --

Hydrotropic methanogens use carbon dioxide as a source of carbon; hydrogen as a source of energy. Carbon dioxide is reduced by hydrogen to produce methane. The methane is turn gives rise to a proton motive force across a membrane, which is used to generate ATP – a key source of cellular energy.

No mention of glycolysis.

You can start here:

http://jfa.bio.qmul.ac.uk/lectures/cell_biology_and_developmental_genetics/Hydrogen_hyp.pdf
 
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What about photosynthesis?
Or chemosythesis?
Or pentose phosphate?
 
Thanks jim macnamara and zomgwtf.

Is there any evidence of convergent evolution, of non-glycolysis pathways?
 
Nereid said:
Thanks jim macnamara and zomgwtf.

Is there any evidence of convergent evolution, of non-glycolysis pathways?

I think that is an issue that is still being explored by the molecular biology crowd. Given how often the assumption that convergent evolution must not happen is turned on its head by that field, I wouldn't be shocked if it turned out that there is such convergence. I can't find, nor have I heard of anything definitive in the field, yet, which supports or refutes the notion.
 
nismaratwork said:
I think that is an issue that is still being explored by the molecular biology crowd. Given how often the assumption that convergent evolution must not happen is turned on its head by that field, I wouldn't be shocked if it turned out that there is such convergence. I can't find, nor have I heard of anything definitive in the field, yet, which supports or refutes the notion.

I agree. I haven't gone into that much depth in gylcolosis but I'm pretty sure our understanding of the evolution of various pathways is pretty limited.

I'm not even sure this will ever be definitively answered although it's agood question.
 
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